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MisterBrown
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.10.2020

May 21 @ 5:42 AM ET
Great win for the Habs. Too bad about Tavares. Good that he gave a thumbs up sign.

But I'm wondering why this sentiment has to be expressed, "This is how hockey works unfortunately… "???

Why's it unfortunate? Hockey is a violent game. Hitting and fighting are part of the entire package. This makes no sense. If you don't want fighting or violence watch golf, or bowling.

Not sure why you express this Karine. This isn't tiddly winks. It's called hockey.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

May 21 @ 5:48 AM ET
OLE OLE OLE OLE!!!

What an effort from Pauly! Price looked up to the challenge! First blood baby, the seed has been planted, will the Buds choke on it?
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

May 21 @ 7:36 AM ET
Great win for the Habs. Too bad about Tavares. Good that he gave a thumbs up sign.

But I'm wondering why this sentiment has to be expressed, "This is how hockey works unfortunately… "???

Why's it unfortunate? Hockey is a violent game. Hitting and fighting are part of the entire package. This makes no sense. If you don't want fighting or violence watch golf, or bowling.

Not sure why you express this Karine. This isn't tiddly winks. It's called hockey.

- MisterBrown


I know it's not tiddly winks, thanks. Look hockey is a speedy contact sport that comes with a lot of risks that's true. Some of those risks cannot be avoided but others can. Why should they be? Because we now know how dangerous hits to the head are and wherever possible they should be avoided. There has been numerous cases of goon's who have suffered so many concussion that they become plagued by CTE, have no quality of life and can't take it anymore. Too often that end with them killing themselves, think about Derek Boogaard, Rick Rypien or Steve Montador's tragic ends for instance.

In a moder society, when you discover that something is dangerous, you try to prevent the unfortunate unlucky consequences. When we started driving cars, there were no seatbells, when accidents claimed lives and someone invented seatbelts, we didn't say oh the hell with that, if you drive you just accept the risk of a motal accident, you don't need to protect yourself against that risk, that's life. When AIDS was discovered we didn't say oh well, that's the risk of having sex, we advocated for safe sex. The goal being in all cases to cary one with the activities we all like to do but without taking unecessary risks.

If you want to see people take risks with their lives, go watch bull fighting, boxing or the UFC, the aim in those sports is litterally to hurt your opponent, in hockey, the aim is to beat your opponent on the score board by scoring more goals, not by trying to kill them. Or you could perhaps think about it, pick up Dryden's book Game Change and realize that this sport you love needs to evolve before it's too late.
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

May 21 @ 7:56 AM ET
Foligno was looking to make a statement and Perry didn't look like he was trying very hard. It's out of his system, now, and the two players can move on. Perry recognized that Foligno wanted to get it out of his system so he obliged, and doesn't expect that there's going to be further issue.

JT will be okay... looked to me like a contracoup concussion to the hindbrain (cerebellum), which results in slow movement and loss of balance - pretty evident from his behaviour after the hit. They didn't stabilize his neck so I don't think they were concerned. Possible whiplash; hopefully that's not the case. I'd say 2-3 week injury.
Darksyde
Season Ticket Holder
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Inside Henny's Head, ON
Joined: 07.11.2007

May 21 @ 8:01 AM ET
I know it's not tiddly winks, thanks. Look hockey is a speedy contact sport that comes with a lot of risks that's true. Some of those risks cannot be avoided but others can. Why should they be? Because we now know how dangerous hits to the head are and wherever possible they should be avoided. There has been numerous cases of goon's who have suffered so many concussion that they become plagued by CTE, have no quality of life and can't take it anymore. Too often that end with them killing themselves, think about Derek Boogaard, Rick Rypien or Steve Montador's tragic ends for instance.

In a moder society, when you discover that something is dangerous, you try to prevent the unfortunate unlucky consequences. When we started driving cars, there were no seatbells, when accidents claimed lives and someone invented seatbelts, we didn't say oh the hell with that, if you drive you just accept the risk of a motal accident, you don't need to protect yourself against that risk, that's life. When AIDS was discovered we didn't say oh well, that's the risk of having sex, we advocated for safe sex. The goal being in all cases to cary one with the activities we all like to do but without taking unecessary risks.

If you want to see people take risks with their lives, go watch bull fighting, boxing or the UFC, the aim in those sports is litterally to hurt your opponent, in hockey, the aim is to beat your opponent on the score board by scoring more goals, not by trying to kill them. Or you could perhaps think about it, pick up Dryden's book Game Change and realize that this sport you love needs to evolve before it's too late.

- Karine Hains

Brilliantly put.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 21 @ 8:10 AM ET
Seems like you guys owe Ducharme an apology!
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

May 21 @ 8:14 AM ET
Brilliantly put.
- Darksyde


Thank you
AGalchenyuk27
Utah Hockey Club
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

May 21 @ 8:17 AM ET


Darksyde
Season Ticket Holder
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Inside Henny's Head, ON
Joined: 07.11.2007

May 21 @ 8:19 AM ET
Seems like you guys owe Ducharme an apology!
- AdamFrench

Last night's game, while it turned out well for the Habs, doesn't fill me with a lot of hope. Carey played like Playoff Price, and he was the major factor in the win. They're still struggling to score, and despite the good game those seasoned vets had, I still don't think KK, CC, and Romanov should be sitting. Put them in next game, and worst case scenario is they go home with the series tied at 1 a piece.
Darksyde
Season Ticket Holder
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Inside Henny's Head, ON
Joined: 07.11.2007

May 21 @ 8:22 AM ET



- AGalchenyuk27

You know, after Zednik, Pacioretty, McCleary...I hate how they sensationalize horrible events. Front page of La Journal *SHOULD* be showing that Carey save, or that Byron goal from his knees.
AGalchenyuk27
Utah Hockey Club
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

May 21 @ 8:23 AM ET
Last night's game, while it turned out well for the Habs, doesn't fill me with a lot of hope. Carey played like Playoff Price, and he was the major factor in the win. They're still struggling to score, and despite the good game those seasoned vets had, I still don't think KK, CC, and Romanov should be sitting. Put them in next game, and worst case scenario is they go home with the series tied at 1 a piece.
- Darksyde

Be surprised if there is a lineup change other than replacing Evans if he can't go.
AGalchenyuk27
Utah Hockey Club
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

May 21 @ 8:23 AM ET
You know, after Zednik, Pacioretty, McCleary...I hate how they sensationalize horrible events. Front page of La Journal *SHOULD* be showing that Carey save, or that Byron goal from his knees.
- Darksyde

exactly
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

May 21 @ 8:33 AM ET
I know it's not tiddly winks, thanks. Look hockey is a speedy contact sport that comes with a lot of risks that's true. Some of those risks cannot be avoided but others can. Why should they be? Because we now know how dangerous hits to the head are and wherever possible they should be avoided. There has been numerous cases of goon's who have suffered so many concussion that they become plagued by CTE, have no quality of life and can't take it anymore. Too often that end with them killing themselves, think about Derek Boogaard, Rick Rypien or Steve Montador's tragic ends for instance.

In a moder society, when you discover that something is dangerous, you try to prevent the unfortunate unlucky consequences. When we started driving cars, there were no seatbells, when accidents claimed lives and someone invented seatbelts, we didn't say oh the hell with that, if you drive you just accept the risk of a motal accident, you don't need to protect yourself against that risk, that's life. When AIDS was discovered we didn't say oh well, that's the risk of having sex, we advocated for safe sex. The goal being in all cases to cary one with the activities we all like to do but without taking unecessary risks.

If you want to see people take risks with their lives, go watch bull fighting, boxing or the UFC, the aim in those sports is litterally to hurt your opponent, in hockey, the aim is to beat your opponent on the score board by scoring more goals, not by trying to kill them. Or you could perhaps think about it, pick up Dryden's book Game Change and realize that this sport you love needs to evolve before it's too late.

- Karine Hains


It was dumb from beginning to end. Dumb by Foligno, dumb by Ducharme for putting Perry back on the ice right away (might have not foreseen that Foligno would want to fight him). Also dumb by Perry for obliging.

Then again, it probably prevented the game from going out of hand because of retaliating cheap shots, which also would have been dumb.

In short, it was dumb.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

May 21 @ 8:38 AM ET
It was dumb from beginning to end. Dumb by Foligno, dumb by Ducharme for putting Perry back on the ice right away (might have not foreseen that Foligno would want to fight him). Also dumb by Perry for obliging.

Then again, it probably prevented the game from going out of hand because of retaliating cheap shots, which also would have been dumb.

In short, it was dumb.

- stinger67

Perry obliging was the right thing to do for dumb reasons but it was
Hockey Pucker
Location: Sarasota, FL
Joined: 11.17.2019

May 21 @ 8:59 AM ET
Foligno's response was dumb...and the Neanderthalls applauding his "emotional response" to come to his captains defense is bull...the game is violent and fast but certain things like this hockey code BS needs to end....the hit was accidental and very very unfortunate...I hope JT is well and back on the ice soon...players like Kadri, Wilson....need to be addressed...not Perry's accidental knee on TAvares.
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

May 21 @ 9:01 AM ET
Perry obliging was the right thing to do for dumb reasons but it was
- Takemedrunkimhome


Both refs were there, they heard everything. They should have told them they would both get expelled if they did it.

But you know, the NHL likes this stuff.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

May 21 @ 9:03 AM ET
Both refs were there, they heard everything. They should have told them they would both get expelled if they did it.

But you know, the NHL likes this stuff.

- stinger67

My point is simply Perry obliging allowed the game to move on. Yes it's dumb and yes there should be refs/team officials informing what happened but Perry obliging is the right thing to do both old school/by the code and for the quality of the game/series itself
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: No, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 21 @ 9:05 AM ET
My point is simply Perry obliging allowed the game to move on. Yes it's dumb and yes there should be refs/team officials informing what happened but Perry obliging is the right thing to do both old school/by the code and for the quality of the game/series itself
- Takemedrunkimhome

moving on....it's over. 3 more games to win.

Same game plan next game, no change until they get to MTL and get the last change.

GHG
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

May 21 @ 9:08 AM ET
moving on....it's over. 3 more games to win.

Same game plan next game, no change until they get to MTL and get the last change.

GHG

- Symba007

Yeah I'm getting my irrational optimism going as I said I would, but there were a lot of issues that need to be cleaned up. Asking Price to fight off nearly 40 shots, many high danger, every night, will likely be a problem eventually.

Still, process aside, great results first night. Go Habs Go
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

May 21 @ 9:14 AM ET
good morning, canada.
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

May 21 @ 9:16 AM ET
Yeah I'm getting my irrational optimism going as I said I would, but there were a lot of issues that need to be cleaned up. Asking Price to fight off nearly 40 shots, many high danger, every night, will likely be a problem eventually.

Still, process aside, great results first night. Go Habs Go

- Takemedrunkimhome


Also, they need to figure out how to get a zone entry on the powerplay without Drouin. That aspect was horrible last night.

...and they were so slow changing during the powerplay. One time I think they wasted a whole 13 seconds waiting in their zone for a line change to be completed.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

May 21 @ 9:19 AM ET
good morning, canada.
- kicksave856

Long weekend Friday southern neighbour
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

May 21 @ 9:20 AM ET
Also, they need to figure out how to get a zone entry on the powerplay without Drouin. That aspect was horrible last night.

...and they were so slow changing during the powerplay. One time I think they wasted a whole 13 seconds waiting in their zone for a line change to be completed.

- stinger67

Powerplay was ugly. Fast breaks were the only real threat. Price playing at his best covers up a lot but it doesn't make it acceptable
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

May 21 @ 9:21 AM ET
Long weekend Friday southern neighbour
- Takemedrunkimhome

oh nice. have a few beers for me!
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

May 21 @ 9:24 AM ET
oh nice. have a few beers for me!
- kicksave856

I took today/gave the whole staff the day off for a 4 day weekend because, selfishly it makes me look great but really there's so little productivity on a day like this before a long weekend it's better to seem nice than to be hammering people for not doing much. So long and short the beers and whiskey started last night
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