Looks like Toronto Sun outdid the JdM this time...

"Captain Crunched" with a photo of Tavares totally concussed with blood dripping from his temple...
- BashCH

wow, tabarnak...

Looks like Toronto Sun outdid the JdM this time...

"Captain Crunched" with a photo of Tavares totally concussed with blood dripping from his temple...
- BashCH

They employ Steve Simmons so this isn't exactly a new low for their hockey reporting

while I agree with your comments Karine, how would you make the game evolve to the point of eliminating incidents such as last night's..?
- Pat1993

You can’t eliminate the incident itself, but you can eliminate the code that lead to a fight in which more injuries could have happened. That’s literally 2 guys trying to hit the other one as hard as they can in the head. An accident shouldnt lead to a license to try and injure the guy who accidentally hurt Tavares. That’s what I’m saying

Leafs in 3
- BashCH

Tony is Symba? Symba is Tony?

You can’t eliminate the incident itself, but you can eliminate the code that lead to a fight in which more injuries could have happened. That’s literally 2 guys trying to hit the other one as hard as they can in the head. An accident shouldnt lead to a license to try and injure the guy who accidentally hurt Tavares. That’s what I’m saying
- Karine Hains

well that makes a lot of sense. I thought you were discussing solely the Tavares incident and not the fight after, thanks for the clarification

You can’t eliminate the incident itself, but you can eliminate the code that lead to a fight in which more injuries could have happened. That’s literally 2 guys trying to hit the other one as hard as they can in the head. An accident shouldnt lead to a license to try and injure the guy who accidentally hurt Tavares. That’s what I’m saying
- Karine Hains

Completely agree.

I guess it was hockey's ridiculous ways of closing the deal on the whole incident.

wow, tabarnak...
- Pat1993

Crap work from JdM and the sun, if u want to make the headline about JT put a pic of the thumbs up, not a distressing pic like that. But both of those papers think that what shocks sells.... unfortunately

Completely agree.

I guess it was hockey's ridiculous ways of closing the deal on the whole incident.
- Scabeh

it's a bit of a caveman mentality lol

Crap work from JdM and the sun, if u want to make the headline about JT put a pic of the thumbs up, not a distressing pic like that. But both of those papers think that what shocks sells.... unfortunately
- Karine Hains

sensationalism sells, indeed...

it's a bit of a caveman mentality lol
- Pat1993

True.

People used to fight when there was a dirty/cheap shot on the ice.

Now its whenever a big hit or someone gets injured.

It's silly.

Crap work from JdM and the sun, if u want to make the headline about JT put a pic of the thumbs up, not a distressing pic like that. But both of those papers think that what shocks sells.... unfortunately
- Karine Hains

In Montreal, the thumbs up and a copy of the tweet from the Habs would have been a nice cover.

True.

People used to fight when there was a dirty/cheap shot on the ice.

Now its whenever a big hit or someone gets injured.

It's silly.
- Scabeh

Really is. It was nice to see that the Leaf fans in their blog felt the same. Imagine if Foligno got hurt in the fight, busted hand, concussion, etc... Then they're down 2 players for nothing.

Really is. It was nice to see that the Leaf fans in their blog felt the same. Imagine if Foligno got hurt in the fight, busted hand, concussion, etc... Then they're down 2 players for nothing.
- Darksyde

or even if Perry gets knocked out, would they call that an "accomplishment"?

I know it's not tiddly winks, thanks. Look hockey is a speedy contact sport that comes with a lot of risks that's true. Some of those risks cannot be avoided but others can. Why should they be? Because we now know how dangerous hits to the head are and wherever possible they should be avoided. There has been numerous cases of goon's who have suffered so many concussion that they become plagued by CTE, have no quality of life and can't take it anymore. Too often that end with them killing themselves, think about Derek Boogaard, Rick Rypien or Steve Montador's tragic ends for instance.

In a moder society, when you discover that something is dangerous, you try to prevent the unfortunate unlucky consequences. When we started driving cars, there were no seatbells, when accidents claimed lives and someone invented seatbelts, we didn't say oh the hell with that, if you drive you just accept the risk of a motal accident, you don't need to protect yourself against that risk, that's life. When AIDS was discovered we didn't say oh well, that's the risk of having sex, we advocated for safe sex. The goal being in all cases to cary one with the activities we all like to do but without taking unecessary risks.

If you want to see people take risks with their lives, go watch bull fighting, boxing or the UFC, the aim in those sports is litterally to hurt your opponent, in hockey, the aim is to beat your opponent on the score board by scoring more goals, not by trying to kill them. Or you could perhaps think about it, pick up Dryden's book Game Change and realize that this sport you love needs to evolve before it's too late.
- Karine Hains

The knee to the head was accidental and unfortunate, not the fight. The fight was not unfortunate. The fight was perfectly acceptable. You don't want to fight, don't play hockey. You get paid to take the risks that come with the sport.

Gov't legislating people's behavior regarding seatbelts is contentious. It's infringing on people's right to decide what risks they're willing to take. They aren't harming anyone but themselves. If you want safety, ban private transportation altogether, cars, trucks, motorcycles, bikes... The whole shebang.

Those guys who committed suicide needed help which, counseling, etc. The game didn't kill them.

No one is forcing anyone to wear a condom to prevent aids. Two people are deciding unless you want to legislate that too.

Two guys on the ice decide to go, perfectly fine. The one guy could have chickened out, but to his credit, he didn't.

You are advocating for "safety concerns" legislating everything out of life and hockey.

If you're a communist.
- MisterBrown

get the (frank) outta here

or even if Perry gets knocked out, would they call that an "accomplishment"?
- Pat1993

Foligno must feel a bit alone in all of this. Not a lot of people agrees with what he did.

Pretty sure he also isn't intelligent enough to fully grasp it all.

Foligno must feel a bit alone in all of this. Not a lot of people agrees with what he did.

Pretty sure he also isn't intelligent enough to fully grasp it all.
- stinger67

I think he confirmed he hadn't seen the hit, so...

it's unfortunate because you can care about another human being despite it being a violent game? JFC it isn't that hard to comprehend
- Pat1993

She was referencing the fight. NOT THE INJURY to Tavares.

Nothing unfortunate about fighting in hockey. Fighting in hockey is not unfortunate. It's like roughing, puck over the glass, icing, etc etc. Against the rules and penalized accordingly.

If you're a communist.
- MisterBrown

I really thought with a win last night we'd avoid the moronic mouth breathers. Yet here we are...

She was referencing the fight. NOT THE INJURY to Tavares.

Nothing unfortunate about fighting in hockey. Fighting in hockey is not unfortunate. It's like roughing, puck over the glass, icing, etc etc. Against the rules and penalized accordingly.
- MisterBrown

fighting after something that was purely accidental is unfortunate and very (frank)ing dumb

I really thought with a win last night we'd avoid the moronic mouth breathers. Yet here we are...
- Takemedrunkimhome

fighting after something that was purely accidental is unfortunate and very (frank)ing dumb
- Pat1993

Very.

...and both referees being there for the conversation and not doing anything about it was equally dumb. Just confirms that the NHL is very OK with that kind of stuff.

Very.

...and both referees being there for the conversation and not doing anything about it was equally dumb. Just confirms that the NHL is very OK with that kind of stuff.
- stinger67

I guess the mentality is if they don't let them fight they fear it's going to escalate and lead to a dirty hit or whatever...

She was referencing the fight. NOT THE INJURY to Tavares.

Nothing unfortunate about fighting in hockey. Fighting in hockey is not unfortunate. It's like roughing, puck over the glass, icing, etc etc. Against the rules and penalized accordingly.
- MisterBrown

The whole situation is kinda like you. We all understand what's happening and why but most people still think it's stupid

She was referencing the fight. NOT THE INJURY to Tavares.

Nothing unfortunate about fighting in hockey. Fighting in hockey is not unfortunate. It's like roughing, puck over the glass, icing, etc etc. Against the rules and penalized accordingly.
- MisterBrown

and that's the problem. players don't fight in football, or basketball, or base-ball. why should they be allowed to in hockey??? oh yes, it's sorry for the french word here, a ligue de broche a foin.
other pro sports, you fight, you're out. as simple as that.
they also don't have a different rule book for the playoffs, or if you lead or trail in the 3rd.
basically, you wanna watch a fight? no problem go watch boxing.
and gtfo