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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 10 @ 4:30 PM ET
My only complaint is fans citing points & handing out 12m or more.
This mgmt group has done well in contracts & term imo. The best teams sign players that want to be a part of winning & are willing to trust mgmt the rest of the cap will be spent to achieve that. This is what I hang onto that Petey will get paid & at a fair team deal. I gotta believe behind close doors this is part of the negotiations. This past offseason & trades show there is much to be hopeful on.

- Nighthawk


If it was a simple thing to sign him he would be done, and personally IDGAF. If he wants to move on then Canucks would get a good return.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 10 @ 4:43 PM ET
If it was a simple thing to sign him he would be done, and personally IDGAF. If he wants to move on then Canucks would get a good return.
- VANTEL

The signing will get done.

Recent games are looking like getting back to what got them off to the flying start. Still not fully back.

Long season 1 game at a time
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 10 @ 4:45 PM ET
I would wait until Petey signs the contract before complaining about it. I have seen a long history of us being wrong about how we think a contract will turn out. It could turn out to be a two year 10 mil contract, so wait and see. In two years Canucks are expected to have 72 mil in cap space. Of course some of it will be eaten up but I see in two years Petey can get a much better deal. So worry about it after it happens.
- VANTEL

It’s only in recent years there’s this pressure, for some unknown reason, to sign younger RFA’s a year before your contract is up. I don’t understand it! It never used to be like that. Pettersson has a contract, sign him in the spring, I don’t see what the big deal is.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 10 @ 4:48 PM ET
It’s only in recent years there’s this pressure, for some unknown reason, to sign younger RFA’s a year before your contract is up. I don’t understand it! It never used to be like that. Pettersson has a contract, sign him in the spring, I don’t see what the big deal is.
- Pacificgem


I think most here feel it is a non issue. Something will happen.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 10 @ 4:56 PM ET
I think most here feel it is a non issue. Something will happen.
- VANTEL

boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Dec 10 @ 5:06 PM ET
I think most here feel it is a non issue. Something will happen.
- VANTEL


I don't think this management group is going to sign Petey to a contract that is going to cripple the team with a poor value contract. I don't understand all the stress and condemnation coming out of a couple of the regular posters in here.

Like I said multiple times. Petey stepped back from negotiations and decided to gamble on himself. If he is as overrated as some say, it's going to reflect on his contract or whatever this management decides to do. Some people are being way too insecure over this.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 10 @ 5:23 PM ET
It’s only in recent years there’s this pressure, for some unknown reason, to sign younger RFA’s a year before your contract is up. I don’t understand it! It never used to be like that. Pettersson has a contract, sign him in the spring, I don’t see what the big deal is.
- Pacificgem

I see no rush either on either side.
Better they both wait it out.
This is a turnaround season with more to be done building a contender.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Dec 10 @ 5:25 PM ET
I don't think this management group is going to sign Petey to a contract that is going to cripple the team with a poor value contract. I don't understand all the stress and condemnation coming out of a couple of the regular posters in here.

Like I said multiple times. Petey stepped back from negotiations and decided to gamble on himself. If he is as overrated as some say, it's going to reflect on his contract or whatever this management decides to do. Some people are being way too insecure over this.

- boonerbuck


Hola
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 10 @ 5:26 PM ET
I don't think this management group is going to sign Petey to a contract that is going to cripple the team with a poor value contract. I don't understand all the stress and condemnation coming out of a couple of the regular posters in here.

Like I said multiple times. Petey stepped back from negotiations and decided to gamble on himself. If he is as overrated as some say, it's going to reflect on his contract or whatever this management decides to do. Some people are being way too insecure over this.

- boonerbuck

What stress?
Who has said overrated?

Fans claiming 12m+ is a given are the issue. Hasn’t the resume YET. This season will go a long ways dictating on what he signs for.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 10 @ 5:29 PM ET
I don't think this management group is going to sign Petey to a contract that is going to cripple the team with a poor value contract. I don't understand all the stress and condemnation coming out of a couple of the regular posters in here.

Like I said multiple times. Petey stepped back from negotiations and decided to gamble on himself. If he is as overrated as some say, it's going to reflect on his contract or whatever this management decides to do. Some people are being way too insecure over this.

- boonerbuck


It is just water cooler talk. Lets face it this site is going to hell so if NH stirs the pot about Petey it is all good in my books.

When things are going well there isn't much to argue about other than is poker and fly fishing really a sport.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 10 @ 5:33 PM ET
What effect will an older Miller signing for 8m will have on Petey’s mindset?

At 8m Miller is proving excellent value. Leading the forwards in all the tough minutes & points & on the dot & total buy in. Setting the bar playing an RT system.

I hope Petey looks at that & appreciates he isn’t the total franchise & signs accordingly. He’s an elite piece yes but how serious he is about winning his next contract will go a long ways in deciding.

8/11m I’m ok with. 5/10.5m if looking at 1 more big pay day.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Dec 10 @ 5:34 PM ET
What stress?
Who has said overrated?

Fans claiming 12m+ is a given are the issue. Hasn’t the resume YET. This season will go a long ways dictating on what he signs for.

- Nighthawk



Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 10 @ 5:37 PM ET
It is just water cooler talk. Lets face it this site is going to hell so if NH stirs the pot about Petey it is all good in my books.

When things are going well there isn't much to argue about other than is poker and fly fishing really a sport.

- VANTEL

In sports & RL I stir the pot lol

I’ve the highest expectations from the best & cut them no slack. I’ve ridden every player underperforming value wise or next expected contract. Mgmt has to be the biggest player if a cup is to be had. Players play & builders build.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 10 @ 5:54 PM ET
Mgmt has done a great job on getting the farm to be a great development tool. The huge front office & development staff has been a long needed sore spot fixed.

Other prospects are trending well. Not enough elite talent in the system but some good pieces. More needed & that’s for future drafts to fill holes for depth. Trading & UFA’s will continue to happen. PA luvs to deal & so do I. Bring it on lol
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 10 @ 5:59 PM ET
@Vantel

Only because only a few in here like to play at ACGM 😂

What player you target &/or assets used to get a trade done? Going on the 2 more moves you mentioned.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 10 @ 6:12 PM ET
@Vantel

Only because only a few in here like to play at ACGM 😂

What player you target &/or assets used to get a trade done? Going on the 2 more moves you mentioned.

- Nighthawk

Probably a forward and a defender with picks and/or players going the other way.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 10 @ 6:17 PM ET
What stress?
Who has said overrated?

Fans claiming 12m+ is a given are the issue. Hasn’t the resume YET. This season will go a long ways dictating on what he signs for.

- Nighthawk

Career point per game player.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 10 @ 6:32 PM ET
Career point per game player.
- neem55


Brock Boeser is a career 30 goal per season player, yet has never scored 30 goals in a season, Pouty has had 1 season over a point per game.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 10 @ 6:36 PM ET
Brock Boeser is a career 30 goal per season player, yet has never scored 30 goals in a season, Pouty has had 1 season over a point per game.
- Reubenkincade

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 10 @ 6:42 PM ET
@Vantel

Only because only a few in here like to play at ACGM 😂

What player you target &/or assets used to get a trade done? Going on the 2 more moves you mentioned.

- Nighthawk


Don't get sold on the names it could be any team, but here is an example.

I think Broberg and Holloway are going to quite usable in another two years so something like Kuzmenko for those two and a second round pick.

I had seen on ACGM Liljegren Robertson and a first from Tor.

Something along those lines two young players and a pick.

That is more of a futures move. As far as this year and the offseason I would like them to extend Z. Hronek and Petey are a given to extend. I would like to see them target Toffoli in the summer and also bring back Tanev to steady the D and teach Willander ( yes they play the same side). Bring back Lafferty Blueger and Dakota. Bring up Bains or Likker. I would keep an eye on Myers (under 2 mil) and Zadarov(3.7 mil) for the rest of the year.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 10 @ 6:49 PM ET
Probably a forward and a defender with picks and/or players going the other way.
- Marwood

Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 10 @ 7:02 PM ET
Brock Boeser is a career 30 goal per season player, yet has never scored 30 goals in a season, Pouty has had 1 season over a point per game.
- Reubenkincade

Not wanting to be pushing semantics but no one has stated Boeser is a 30 goal scorer, they may hope he does reach that milestone (and just might this year) but has not reached that point.

Now Pettersson is a career point per game player, 353 games played 360 points so far, so Neemers post is factual.

So Pettersson should sign for 12+ for 3-4 years,
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Dec 10 @ 7:05 PM ET
I don't think this management group is going to sign Petey to a contract that is going to cripple the team with a poor value contract. I don't understand all the stress and condemnation coming out of a couple of the regular posters in here.

Like I said multiple times. Petey stepped back from negotiations and decided to gamble on himself. If he is as overrated as some say, it's going to reflect on his contract or whatever this management decides to do. Some people are being way too insecure over this.

- boonerbuck


How do you know this? Maybe they're still negotiating in private.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Dec 10 @ 7:15 PM ET
How do you know this? Maybe they're still negotiating in private.
- Load Management


3 or 4 days ago PA said after reconnecting and seeing if they could make any progress, they didn't achieve any so they are back to wait and see.

I'm sure you have some alternate version based on fantasy as usual.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 10 @ 7:21 PM ET
Not wanting to be pushing semantics but no one has stated Boeser is a 30 goal scorer, they may hope he does reach that milestone (and just might this year) but has not reached that point.

Now Pettersson is a career point per game player, 353 games played 360 points so far, so Neemers post is factual.

So Pettersson should sign for 12+ for 3-4 years,

- Makita


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