Dorion made quite a few doozies. Some you can pin on the owner meddling or having one hand on the wallet. Others are just headscratchingly dumb.

Tyler Boucher?
Matt Murray?
Signing a bunch of crappola vets because DJ Smith asked him to and thus stunting the curve of some high draft picks. One of whom finally packed up and went home.

Shoulda kept Nick Paul.

I like Terik Parascak or Henry Mews (hometown pick) for Ottawa at 25!

To Ottawa
Trevor Zegras, John Gibson

To Anaheim
Josh Norris, Joonas Korpisalo, 7th Overall Pick

Do you accept the above trade?

To Ottawa
Trevor Zegras, John Gibson

To Anaheim
Josh Norris, Joonas Korpisalo, 7th Overall Pick

Do you accept the above trade?
- AlfieisKing

Gibson sucks and wont waive for canada, and rather have norris over zegras also neither of them separate or together are worth a top 10 pick.

To Ottawa
Trevor Zegras, John Gibson

To Anaheim
Josh Norris, Joonas Korpisalo, 7th Overall Pick

Do you accept the above trade?
- AlfieisKing

Markstrom and Andersson for Korpisalo, Chychrun and the 7th oa pick
Calgary get a top 10 pick and Chychrun but takes on Korpisalo crappy contract.
Ottawa gets a #1 goalie and a top 4 rhs D on a team friendly contract for 2 more years.

Markstrom and Andersson for Korpisalo, Chychrun and the 7th oa pick
Calgary get a top 10 pick and Chychrun but takes on Korpisalo crappy contract.
Ottawa gets a #1 goalie and a top 4 rhs D on a team friendly contract for 2 more years.
- K-man25

Jacob Markstrom turns 35 years old in 7 months. He will be a UFA in 13 months (which means he HAS to come with an extension). What does that extension look like do you think?

Also if you want to talk about our 7th overall pick you have to do WAY better. Chychrun is better than Andersson, certainly Markstrom is way more valuable than Korpisalo but the gap in between MIGHT be the 25th overall pick (still a 1st) I'd have to think about that, but it's not a 7th overall pick.

Jacob Markstrom turns 35 years old in 7 months. He will be a UFA in 13 months (which means he HAS to come with an extension). What does that extension look like do you think?

Also if you want to talk about our 7th overall pick you have to do WAY better. Chychrun is better than Andersson, certainly Markstrom is way more valuable than Korpisalo but the gap in between MIGHT be the 25th overall pick (still a 1st) I'd have to think about that, but it's not a 7th overall pick.
- AlfieisKing

Just a couple of years ago, the Sens scoped out a long term cap vision that anticipated long term money for DeBrincat and Chychrun. In addition, they have a dubious $8m cap hit on the books for Josh Norris (possible LTIR or buy out).

If the Sens deal Chychrun and buy out Norris they will have $23.3m in free cap. If Norris goes on LTIR for most of the season the Sens free cap could be as high as $24.7m. They need to resign Pinto, Brannstorm and Kelly plus add a few depth players. No doubt they will also be looking to add a RHD.

When Staios says our goaltending is okay and his first priority is to add a top 6 forward that can score goals, we should believe him.

Overall the Sens cap is in great shape. They can probably go as high as adding a $10m salary for the right player (if one was available). But, my guess is they will probably try and hold any addition to below the $8.5m commitment to Timmy.

I think Staios and the entire front office has been thinking on their first big deal for a long time. I expect we will hear a lot more noise once the the Cup is awarded.

They're not buying out Norris. He'll play or he wont. insurance will pay.
I'd be genuinely surprised if they traded Chychrun.
I think they'll stick with Korpi too.

I'm getting the sense that there's not gonna be much movement. Chabbot maybe goes if Staois gets a deal he can't refuse.

Brannstrom and Hamonic are probably gone in favor of some right handed D that can be relied upon like Zub. Pinto resigned. That's it.

They're not buying out Norris. He'll play or he wont. insurance will pay.
I'd be genuinely surprised if they traded Chychrun.
I think they'll stick with Korpi too.

I'm getting the sense that there's not gonna be much movement. Chabbot maybe goes if Staois gets a deal he can't refuse.

Brannstrom and Hamonic are probably gone in favor of some right handed D that can be relied upon like Zub. Pinto resigned. That's it.
- Octavarium

LTIR for Norris may be best outcome for team.

LTIR for Norris may be best outcome for team.
- spatso

Does Norris have more value now as an insurance payoff or LTIR than as actual player?

Legit question.

I'm trying to figure out a way the sens can include him in a deal and I wonder if he has some appeal because he may never play again.

To take on the PLD contract from the kings in full, u gotta figure its worth the equivalent of 2 firsts. Unless Rob Blake is the only one who sees value in the player and refuses to admit the mistake and will ride or die on the signing.

But Norris and Chychrun and something else for PLD and Clarke?

I don't like pLD as a player but I like Norris not playing even worse.

it's a tough situation.

We don't yet know if he will again or not, and at what level. And he is widely liked and respected amongst the young core. You dump him and his deal off and all avenues for him returning to play haven't been explored.........you may cause some irreperable damage with the captain and others. I know it's a business but...

Does Norris have more value now as an insurance payoff or LTIR than as actual player?

Legit question.

I'm trying to figure out a way the sens can include him in a deal and I wonder if he has some appeal because he may never play again.

To take on the PLD contract from the kings in full, u gotta figure its worth the equivalent of 2 firsts. Unless Rob Blake is the only one who sees value in the player and refuses to admit the mistake and will ride or die on the signing.

But Norris and Chychrun and something else for PLD and Clarke?

I don't like pLD as a player but I like Norris not playing even worse.
- GrimmdaGoalie

PLD is a 8.5M dead weight, LAK would need to pay so much to dump him it would criple their team, he aint going anywere, hell they rumours about buying him out.

it's a tough situation.

We don't yet know if he will again or not, and at what level. And he is widely liked and respected amongst the young core. You dump him and his deal off and all avenues for him returning to play haven't been explored.........you may cause some irreperable damage with the captain and others. I know it's a business but...
- Octavarium

This could be something much more complex than what is the best solution for the team. I think it is best understood in terms of what is the best option for Josh Norris. You know that there are family, friends and even team mates who will wonder about the wisdom of his trying again when the LTIR option sits on the table.

If the Sens start talking buy out, you can be certain Norris' agent will counter with the need to explore the LTIR route.

LTIR only works if both sides agree it is the best solution. If both sides agree it is the best solution, the players will be 100% in support.

PLD is a 8.5M dead weight, LAK would need to pay so much to dump him it would criple their team, he aint going anywere, hell they rumours about buying him out.
- Mithos

The buy out on PLD is not as bad as what you might think. He is still young so the numbers spread out and can be managed. For the first 2 years the cap hit is around $1.6m. Followed by 2 years at $2.5m and 3 years at $3.8m. The last 7 years of the buy out is at $1.13m.

Any team that is about to embark on a rebuild and crash their salary base could easily accommodate those numbers.

I am one of the few that thinks PLD would be an asset for a team that has Stanley Cup hopes. I thought his play at the Men's World Championship was solid.

Billionaire owners became billionaires because they don't throw large amounts of money at silly notions .... like a buy out of PLD. Paying him a million a year for 14 years for essentially NOT PLAYING FOR HIS TEAM. I don't understand your man crush on this player who has essentially disappointed on every team he has played for. Just a disgruntled well paid player. Based on what the Ottawa powers that be (Staios, etc.) have been harping on ..... PLD does not have the type of personality they are looking for. He is not a team kind of guy and does not have the requisite skills and personality they want.

What Ottawa needs is a capable 200ft player who can play 2nd or 3rd lines as needed. They need a Right shot defencman that can elevate to 2nd pairing .... not flashy, not necessarily a goal scorer but can play a good defensive game with Chabot. I am convinced we can get these pieces from free agency. Then we go out with a trade package to get what hopefully will be a #1 goalie. Pieces like Chychrun, Brannstrom, Joseph, Norris, Boston's 1rst round pick at #25 can be used for this.

Billionaire owners became billionaires because they don't throw large amounts of money at silly notions .... like a buy out of PLD. Paying him a million a year for 14 years for essentially NOT PLAYING FOR HIS TEAM. I don't understand your man crush on this player who has essentially disappointed on every team he has played for. Just a disgruntled well paid player. Based on what the Ottawa powers that be (Staios, etc.) have been harping on ..... PLD does not have the type of personality they are looking for. He is not a team kind of guy and does not have the requisite skills and personality they want.

What Ottawa needs is a capable 200ft player who can play 2nd or 3rd lines as needed. They need a Right shot defencman that can elevate to 2nd pairing .... not flashy, not necessarily a goal scorer but can play a good defensive game with Chabot. I am convinced we can get these pieces from free agency. Then we go out with a trade package to get what hopefully will be a #1 goalie. Pieces like Chychrun, Brannstrom, Joseph, Norris, Boston's 1rst round pick at #25 can be used for this.
- OttawaB

Let me say something about PLD. If you remember multiple teams chased PLD last summer. LA paid Winnipeg a huge trade price. PLD was first hailed by the Kings as their future #1 centre replacing Kopitar.

But, LA already had Kopitar and Danault. Both solid and highly effective two way centres. So, LA played PLD as their 3rd line centre for the entire season. Fans got upset when he produced 3rd line numbers. So, this is the flaw, if you tell a guy he is 3rd line, if you slot him into 3rd line minutes (or worse) and if you give him third line pluggers to play with...don't be surprised if he performs like a 3rd line player.

When PLD is on his game he is one of the toughest match ups for the leagues top centres. He can play them tough. But he needs solid line mates for his game to excel.

I believe someone will take a chance on PLD and they will get rewarded.

PLD looked solid to me at the World Championships.

Doug Maclean
@DougMaclean
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I’m reading all this Marner hate ! Be careful what you wish for Leaf Fans ! This is a talented player and a very challenging trade to win for the Leafs ! The GM has to make the right deal and believe me it’s a tough deal to make!

I keep a close eye on this year's version of the Leaf spring melt down. It appears almost everyone believes that they are going to trade Marner and they are hoping to rebuild their blue line.

This is a wickedly hard deal for the Leafs to pull off. Very few teams are positioned to take on an $11m contract with only one year remaining on the deal.

Sens are a hard fit for Marner at that price. But, Sens do have assets that could make them an effective 3rd party deal maker in a 3 way trade.

..and I feel like the Leafs would never trade him to Ottawa even before we got to asking Marner who would never agree to go.

I wonder if Columbus might make sense for him.

..and I feel like the Leafs would never trade him to Ottawa even before we got to asking Marner who would never agree to go.

I wonder if Columbus might make sense for him.
- Octavarium

Several points here. First, why would Columbus want Marner. Then they would have their top 2 scorers being around 5ft 10in .... Gaudreau and Marner. And neither of them likes to spend any time in the corners digging for a puck. I don't see how they would thrive together in playoff hockey.

As for Sens trading for Marner ..... why? What Leafs need (defence and goaltending), Sens don't have anything to trade. We need defence and goaltending as well. Plus, why would we want a + $11 million dollar player who put up big points playing with Matthews .... and now he won't be playing with Matthews. Marner is not the kind of forward Ottawa is looking for.

Let me say something about PLD. If you remember multiple teams chased PLD last summer. LA paid Winnipeg a huge trade price. PLD was first hailed by the Kings as their future #1 centre replacing Kopitar.

But, LA already had Kopitar and Danault. Both solid and highly effective two way centres. So, LA played PLD as their 3rd line centre for the entire season. Fans got upset when he produced 3rd line numbers. So, this is the flaw, if you tell a guy he is 3rd line, if you slot him into 3rd line minutes (or worse) and if you give him third line pluggers to play with...don't be surprised if he performs like a 3rd line player.

When PLD is on his game he is one of the toughest match ups for the leagues top centres. He can play them tough. But he needs solid line mates for his game to excel.

I believe someone will take a chance on PLD and they will get rewarded.

PLD looked solid to me at the World Championships.
- spatso

I don't have quite the same enthusiasm for Pierre-Luc Dubois, but I also don't believe he's nearly as toxic as many have suggested. It's true that he's now had two fairly public issues with his team, but in fairness he was dealing with Tortorella in CBJ and a major demotion in LAK. To my knowledge he fit in relatively well in WPG, and his two full seasons saw him put up 27G/60Pts+ both years. He also looked relatively effective for Team Canada at the World Championships, though I think he's definitely more of a 2nd line player. That said, I would agree that you really can't go around paying Dubois $8.5M to play on the 3rd line... and if you do, you can't be surprised when his decline in production lines up directly with his reduced role.

I would suggest this roster position issue also pertains to Mathieu Joseph - who has never been able to produce when played on a 3rd/4th line, but has been surprisingly effective when playing on a more offensive line. I would also suggest that it wasn't just Joseph benefiting from the skill of those players, because he seemed to enhance the effectiveness of almost any line he was playing on, in large part due to his pace. It's maybe time to re-examine their line strategy and work on having a core of three primary C-W pairings to build around (e.g. Tkachuk-Stutzle, Pinto-Giroux, Batherson-Greig), to which you add players like Joseph/Norris as complements.

There are also rumours that Tanner Jeannot is being shopped by TBL... who could be a very interesting player to bring in to add considerably more sandpaper to the middle-six forwards. It's not clear why things haven't worked out so well in TBL, but if you look at their TOI there's very much a top-6 playing >17min/GP or more, and a bottom-6 playing 12min/GP or less. He could be a much more impactful player if allowed to play in more game situations, including the PK - where he was quite effective in his last year in NSH, led all forwards in blocked shots, and was 2nd in forward SH TOI. He also had 24G and over 300 hits that year (plus 200 hits last season), so there's a lot of powder in that keg if you can find the right lineup spot for him.

I don't have quite the same enthusiasm for Pierre-Luc Dubois, but I also don't believe he's nearly as toxic as many have suggested. It's true that he's now had two fairly public issues with his team, but in fairness he was dealing with Tortorella in CBJ and a major demotion in LAK. To my knowledge he fit in relatively well in WPG, and his two full seasons saw him put up 27G/60Pts+ both years. He also looked relatively effective for Team Canada at the World Championships, though I think he's definitely more of a 2nd line player. That said, I would agree that you really can't go around paying Dubois $8.5M to play on the 3rd line... and if you do, you can't be surprised when his decline in production lines up directly with his reduced role.

I would suggest this roster position issue also pertains to Mathieu Joseph - who has never been able to produce when played on a 3rd/4th line, but has been surprisingly effective when playing on a more offensive line. I would also suggest that it wasn't just Joseph benefiting from the skill of those players, because he seemed to enhance the effectiveness of almost any line he was playing on, in large part due to his pace. It's maybe time to re-examine their line strategy and work on having a core of three primary C-W pairings to build around (e.g. Tkachuk-Stutzle, Pinto-Giroux, Batherson-Greig), to which you add players like Joseph/Norris as complements.

There are also rumours that Tanner Jeannot is being shopped by TBL... who could be a very interesting player to bring in to add considerably more sandpaper to the middle-six forwards. It's not clear why things haven't worked out so well in TBL, but if you look at their TOI there's very much a top-6 playing >17min/GP or more, and a bottom-6 playing 12min/GP or less. He could be a much more impactful player if allowed to play in more game situations, including the PK - where he was quite effective in his last year in NSH, led all forwards in blocked shots, and was 2nd in forward SH TOI. He also had 24G and over 300 hits that year (plus 200 hits last season), so there's a lot of powder in that keg if you can find the right lineup spot for him.
- khawk

I agree with you on Joseph. He seems to adapt and play the game he is asked to play. He kills penalties, he is a solid defensive guy when put on the 3rd line and he looks good when they move him up into a top 6 role.

If the Sens were to chase a deal with the CAP challenged Lightening, I would like to see them ask about the availability of Nick Paul.

I don't have quite the same enthusiasm for Pierre-Luc Dubois, but I also don't believe he's nearly as toxic as many have suggested. It's true that he's now had two fairly public issues with his team, but in fairness he was dealing with Tortorella in CBJ and a major demotion in LAK. To my knowledge he fit in relatively well in WPG, and his two full seasons saw him put up 27G/60Pts+ both years. He also looked relatively effective for Team Canada at the World Championships, though I think he's definitely more of a 2nd line player. That said, I would agree that you really can't go around paying Dubois $8.5M to play on the 3rd line... and if you do, you can't be surprised when his decline in production lines up directly with his reduced role.

I would suggest this roster position issue also pertains to Mathieu Joseph - who has never been able to produce when played on a 3rd/4th line, but has been surprisingly effective when playing on a more offensive line. I would also suggest that it wasn't just Joseph benefiting from the skill of those players, because he seemed to enhance the effectiveness of almost any line he was playing on, in large part due to his pace. It's maybe time to re-examine their line strategy and work on having a core of three primary C-W pairings to build around (e.g. Tkachuk-Stutzle, Pinto-Giroux, Batherson-Greig), to which you add players like Joseph/Norris as complements.

There are also rumours that Tanner Jeannot is being shopped by TBL... who could be a very interesting player to bring in to add considerably more sandpaper to the middle-six forwards. It's not clear why things haven't worked out so well in TBL, but if you look at their TOI there's very much a top-6 playing >17min/GP or more, and a bottom-6 playing 12min/GP or less. He could be a much more impactful player if allowed to play in more game situations, including the PK - where he was quite effective in his last year in NSH, led all forwards in blocked shots, and was 2nd in forward SH TOI. He also had 24G and over 300 hits that year (plus 200 hits last season), so there's a lot of powder in that keg if you can find the right lineup spot for him.
- khawk

The off-season acquisitions have to start with the RD. Everything else isn't a priority.

Hoping the sens spend the cap space and trade capital on that position first.

The off-season acquisitions have to start with the RD. Everything else isn't a priority.

Hoping the sens spend the cap space and trade capital on that position first.
- GrimmdaGoalie

Sure, but you also have to remain mindful of opportunities as they present themselves. In the case of Jeannot there will most likely be a push for TBL to trade him at the draft, because he has a M-NTC that kicks in for the final year of his deal that I'm sure they'd rather not have to contend with. It's pretty unlikely that the resources involved in that trade would substantially impact the acquisition of a top-4 RHD via major trade or UFA signing. And even if they do, Staios has a whole lot more to do this summer than just find a top-4 RHD. I would expect him to take advantage of whatever improvement opportunities present themselves, even if they don't strictly follow the sequence of an ideal-state wish list.

First thing that needs to get done is to hire some assistant coaches and decide what you want to do with the current assistants.
Then they need to re-sign Pinto. Get this deal done and quit Richarding around. This can't drag into preseason again.

First thing that needs to get done is to hire some assistant coaches and decide what you want to do with the current assistants.
Then they need to re-sign Pinto. Get this deal done and quit Richarding around. This can't drag into preseason again.
- OttawaB

Has Capunao not been let go? You'd think Green would want his own guys.