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Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
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Jun 22 @ 5:42 PM ET
can we ask that question twice in one day?
- deadpoulet


odd question to ask when you were literally talking about fingers up the ass a few posts earlier
WaterBoy
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Jun 22 @ 5:54 PM ET
I read a rumor somewhere of a possible trade with NJ involving Matheson and their #10 pick. More involved as well, but do you do a package like that if it gets you #10?
- braidan

Yes
WaterBoy
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Jun 22 @ 5:55 PM ET
Not sure i wanna back read…
AGalchenyuk27
Dallas Stars
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Jun 22 @ 6:17 PM ET
Habs were in on PLD per Friedman
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
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Jun 22 @ 6:22 PM ET
Habs were in on PLD per Friedman
- AGalchenyuk27



I have a hunch the habs inquired about him, as they should do any time a player with legit top 6 potential is made available, but they backed down because of the asking price (too much risk to be giving up any quality assets).
Réal_Ruelle
Montreal Canadiens
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Jun 22 @ 8:30 PM ET
Would you have done like Josh Anderson for PLD no salary retained?

A bit similar to what Washington offerred.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
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Jun 22 @ 9:15 PM ET
Would you have done like Josh Anderson for PLD no salary retained?

A bit similar to what Washington offerred.

- Réal_Ruelle


that's sort of what I had in mind too if a deal had any chance to be made with MTL, I'd be asking salary retention, and/or they'd be taking back Anderson, Gallagher or Dvorak.

thing is though, I was giving PLD the benefit of the doubt even when he just started in LA, but now he has the official "damaged goods" label for sure... I don't know if there was some beef going on in the locker room but the kings wanting to back out of that contract after only one year makes him look rather bad lol.
Réal_Ruelle
Montreal Canadiens
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Jun 22 @ 9:28 PM ET
that's sort of what I had in mind too if a deal had any chance to be made with MTL, I'd be asking salary retention, and/or they'd be taking back Anderson, Gallagher or Dvorak.

thing is though, I was giving PLD the benefit of the doubt even when he just started in LA, but now he has the official "damaged goods" label for sure... I don't know if there was some beef going on in the locker room but the kings wanting to back out of that contract after only one year makes him look rather bad lol.

- Pat1993


Yep. I dont think it wod have been à good idea especially with the criticism he would get for not living up to his salary. 8 years of complaints on hb is long.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 09.29.2005

Jun 22 @ 9:53 PM ET
Yep. I dont think it wod have been à good idea especially with the criticism he would get for not living up to his salary. 8 years of complaints on hb is long.
- Réal_Ruelle

to be fair, that sounds like a dream for some hb posters.


oh wait, you meant hearing the complaints. sorry. carry on.
mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 12.18.2011

Jun 22 @ 9:56 PM ET
to be fair, that sounds like a dream for some hb posters.


oh wait, you meant hearing the complaints. sorry. carry on.

- kicksave856

Hi
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
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Jun 22 @ 10:18 PM ET
Yep. I dont think it wod have been à good idea especially with the criticism he would get for not living up to his salary. 8 years of complaints on hb is long.
- Réal_Ruelle



hééé tabarnak...
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
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Jun 22 @ 10:18 PM ET
to be fair, that sounds like a dream for some hb posters.


oh wait, you meant hearing the complaints. sorry. carry on.

- kicksave856



...

Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 22 @ 10:24 PM ET
that's sort of what I had in mind too if a deal had any chance to be made with MTL, I'd be asking salary retention, and/or they'd be taking back Anderson, Gallagher or Dvorak.

thing is though, I was giving PLD the benefit of the doubt even when he just started in LA, but now he has the official "damaged goods" label for sure... I don't know if there was some beef going on in the locker room but the kings wanting to back out of that contract after only one year makes him look rather bad lol.

- Pat1993


... but $8.5m until 2031.

Oh a chance it works out.

I'd like Anderson gone, but not that much.


mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 22 @ 10:25 PM ET
... but $8.5m until 2031.

Oh a chance it works out.

I'd like Anderson gone, but not that much.

- Mashadar

PLME will be on at least 3 more teams with that deal ***if*** he doesn't get bought out
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 22 @ 10:26 PM ET
Hi
- mr.peanut

hello, friend.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 22 @ 10:26 PM ET
...

- Pat1993

Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
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Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 22 @ 10:28 PM ET
... but $8.5m until 2031.

Oh a chance it works out.

I'd like Anderson gone, but not that much.

- Mashadar



yeah but I'd negotiate some salary retention on PLD's contract as well...

I agree though, I still probably wouldn't make the move, it's too big of a red flag for too much term.

in WAS there shouldn't be too much pressure for him, with Kuznetzov gone he's basically there to help out Ovi break that goals record, which will probably be the caps' main focus until it gets done.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
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Jun 22 @ 10:30 PM ET
PLME will be on at least 3 more teams with that deal ***if*** he doesn't get bought out
- mr.peanut



Petite Large Moyenne Entreprise?
Mashadar
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Jun 22 @ 11:13 PM ET
yeah but I'd negotiate some salary retention on PLD's contract as well...

I agree though, I still probably wouldn't make the move, it's too big of a red flag for too much term.

in WAS there shouldn't be too much pressure for him, with Kuznetzov gone he's basically there to help out Ovi break that goals record, which will probably be the caps' main focus until it gets done.

- Pat1993


I think they traded for him because they are desperate to find someone to help Ovi get the record, and this was perhaps what they believed as the best option out there available to them... I really don't think they give a poop about the longer term repercussions once the record is broken.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
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Jun 22 @ 11:38 PM ET
I think they traded for him because they are desperate to find someone to help Ovi get the record, and this was perhaps what they believed as the best option out there available to them... I really don't think they give a poop about the longer term repercussions once the record is broken.
- Mashadar


exactly... although it's still a questionable move considering it shouldn't take Ovi more than two more seasons to break the record, while PLD's contract ends in 2031. if he doesn't figure things out it's only gonna slow down an eventual rebuild.
Mashadar
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Jun 23 @ 12:55 AM ET
exactly... although it's still a questionable move considering it shouldn't take Ovi more than two more seasons to break the record, while PLD's contract ends in 2031. if he doesn't figure things out it's only gonna slow down an eventual rebuild.
- Pat1993


Once Ovi gets the record, he will retire and they will be in full rebuild anyways.

2 years, maybe 3 if things go real bad.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
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Jun 23 @ 1:25 AM ET
Once Ovi gets the record, he will retire and they will be in full rebuild anyways.

2 years, maybe 3 if things go real bad.

- Mashadar


oh I know, just saying that if he's such a Pierre-Luc Douchebois he could mess with the culture and work ethic they'll be trying to implement with the younger guys, which obviously isn't ideal.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 23 @ 7:35 AM ET
PLME will be on at least 3 more teams with that deal ***if*** he doesn't get bought out
- mr.peanut


not an easy contract to buy out
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 08.10.2008

Jun 23 @ 8:53 AM ET
Would you have done like Josh Anderson for PLD no salary retained?

A bit similar to what Washington offerred.

- Réal_Ruelle

god no
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
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Jun 23 @ 10:10 AM ET
oh I know, just saying that if he's such a Pierre-Luc Douchebois he could mess with the culture and work ethic they'll be trying to implement with the younger guys, which obviously isn't ideal.
- Pat1993


Yeah.

Just too many things can go wrong.

Also, the Caps #1 goalie is Charlie Lindgren, with no other veteran goalie in their system.

I mean, good on Lindgren - he had a pretty decent year in 2023/24, and will likely get a decent contract this summer, but that is another risk they are taking. Does he have it to it again? He had a few rough months mid-season and did not look that great in the playoffs.

Not that Kuemper was the answer either (based on his play).

I am not sure the Caps are even about winning at this point.
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