Tomahawk
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Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi. Joined: 02.04.2009
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Schmojo
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Joined: 06.14.2023
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Jeff Marek on the 32 Thoughts podcast:
“Based on my conversations, it’s my belief that Chicago will take Levshunov 2nd, Anaheim will take Zeev Buium 3rd, Cayden Lindstrom goes to the Columbus Blue Jackets 4th & then Demidov falls to the Montreal Canadiens…” |
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DB and, more importantly, KJ finding out that the best way to get a player like Demidov is to not try so hard during the season especially when you know all it will do is place you in draft day purgatory - mr4tno
yep kind of funny how now they want to move up. had they really been "rebuilding" they wouldn't have the need to probably move up. |
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Tomahawk
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Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi. Joined: 02.04.2009
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Jeff Marek on the 32 Thoughts podcast:
“Based on my conversations, it’s my belief that Chicago will take Levshunov 2nd, Anaheim will take Zeev Buium 3rd, Cayden Lindstrom goes to the Columbus Blue Jackets 4th & then Demidov falls to the Montreal Canadiens…” - Schmojo
Habs fans will then promptly burn the city down when the team passes on another potentially elite Russian to take another defenseman
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At the rate he's falling maybe he'll be there at #32 - Tomahawk
This is the kind of player that would make Tort's head explode. |
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Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Wyomissing, PA Joined: 06.23.2017
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Habs fans will then promptly burn the city down when the team passes on another potentially elite Russian to take another defenseman
- Tomahawk
This would be absolutely hysterical if it happens.
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Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 08.12.2020
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What a great morning with rumors. Supposedly, Carolina trying to get to #4 dangling Necas as part of the deal. Does Waddell luv Necas? |
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Tomahawk
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Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi. Joined: 02.04.2009
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What a great morning with rumors. Supposedly, Carolina trying to get to #4 dangling Necas as part of the deal. Does Waddell luv Necas? - Trox88
If Waddell trades 4OA to Carolina after freshly being hired from there... lol... what an inside job.
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Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 08.12.2020
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If Waddell trades 4OA to Carolina after freshly being hired from there... lol... what an inside job. - Tomahawk
It would be awesome, I have to admit. 🤣🤣
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Would be nice if teams are afraid of him because of the Russian factor, because apparently the Flyers have figured it out. Still, not sure how I feel about rooting for a team full of Russian players. I ama product of the era of the Red Army team against the NHL, and that game in 1976 cemented me as a Flyers fan for life. - jd250
Flyers haven't figured it out. It was never the issue that you and others made it into. You ignored facts and history. You ignored what was told to you numerous times.
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bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PA Joined: 07.05.2011
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PT21 is on sabatical. - landros 2
And we are all better off for it. |
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landros 2
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Centre of universe Joined: 02.07.2007
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Much of what you wrote above seems very tenuosly related to what I am questioning. Let me focus on the only relevant thing you wrote above (in bold)
1 step forward, 2 steps back means more losing, no? How is that creating a winning culture? - PT21
It’s with the understanding that they simply are not good enough… they need an influx of talent. The culture will be “sustainable” with winning… not without…. Did you enjoy last nights debate? 😂 |
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Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 08.12.2020
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Wait till Atkinson with Flyers retaining half salary is part of the deal to get #4. Briere saves a buyout slot.
CLB recieve #12. #32, COL 1st 2025, Farabee, Atkinson @ half salary
Flyers recieve #4, get CLB 2nd rd pick this season, 4th rd pick 2025 |
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Wait till Atkinson with Flyers retaining half salary is part of the deal to get #4. Briere saves a buyout slot.
CLB recieve #12. #32, COL 1st 2025, Farabee, Atkinson @ half salary
Flyers recieve #4, get CLB 2nd rd pick this season, 4th rd pick 2025 - Trox88
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PT21
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: 木糠布丁, PA Joined: 03.04.2008
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The winning culture isn’t necessary until you’ve acquired your core building blocks. Both Cup finalists this year had losing cultures until they got the building blocks in place and then built around them. To get those building blocks you need to lose.
I can understand a team wanting a solid culture around young players even when they’re losing to illustrate good habits as a pro. An aging veteran who is well past their prime but had won before can show young players the importance of taking care of your body, how to prepare, being on the road, etc. I do believe there’s value in that. And it’s important to not have bad locker room guys around them. But, to have a good culture, doesn’t mean you have to go nuts and win a lot. Calling it a winning culture is taken too literally. It’s more about having a professional culture. - Schmojo
Sure
What he meant was that culture in and of itself is meaningless, and what matters are the players knowing they are winners or can be winners. The problem is, the steps he suggested (trading away good players) would lead to a losing culture, at least for the present, and there is a contradiction there that needed clarification. Something like: you need to build a winning culture and the first step towards that is building a losing culture. (Sounds like Alice in Wonderland, but probably true).
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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The winning culture isn’t necessary until you’ve acquired your core building blocks. Both Cup finalists this year had losing cultures until they got the building blocks in place and then built around them. To get those building blocks you need to lose.
I can understand a team wanting a solid culture around young players even when they’re losing to illustrate good habits as a pro. An aging veteran who is well past their prime but had won before can show young players the importance of taking care of your body, how to prepare, being on the road, etc. I do believe there’s value in that. And it’s important to not have bad locker room guys around them. But, to have a good culture, doesn’t mean you have to go nuts and win a lot. Calling it a winning culture is taken too literally. It’s more about having a professional culture. - Schmojo
Excellent and well explained. Culture is a misused term and is overrated. Simply get the right mix of skill and talent and the culture will build itself. Flyers use buzzwords like culture as a marketing ploy to suck in gullible fans.
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Sure
What he meant was that culture in and of itself is meaningless, and what matters are the players knowing they are winners or can be winners. The problem is, the steps he suggested (trading away good players) would lead to a losing culture, at least for the present, and there is a contradiction there that needed clarification. Something like: you need to build a winning culture and the first step towards that is building a losing culture. (Sounds like Alice in Wonderland, but probably true). - PT21
That's not what he meant at all. He didn't state that culture is meaningless. He's saying that you have to get worse to get better and that has to come before building a winning culture. No contradiction involved. Simply a process. |
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WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PA Joined: 04.27.2018
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Wait till Atkinson with Flyers retaining half salary is part of the deal to get #4. Briere saves a buyout slot.
CLB recieve #12. #32, COL 1st 2025, Farabee, Atkinson @ half salary
Flyers recieve #4, get CLB 2nd rd pick this season, 4th rd pick 2025 - Trox88
Hard Pass. Colorado 1st cannot be included in any trade unless they are getting back a superstar
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PT21
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: 木糠布丁, PA Joined: 03.04.2008
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It’s with the understanding that they simply are not good enough… they need an influx of talent. The culture will be “sustainable” with winning… not without…. Did you enjoy last nights debate? 😂 - landros 2
You have "culture", "results", "now" and "future", all mixed up in your mind.
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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA Joined: 06.26.2007
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I feel like this is the script from the movie Draft Day and Danny is Kevin Costner.
Columbus is Indianapolis trying to move the QB (Lindstrom). |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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You have "culture", "results", "now" and "future", all mixed up in your mind.
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What he is saying, makes perfect sense. Here is what is in your mind. It is completely obvious that you're simply trying to get retribution for a recent past conversation in which you took a beating. Desperately trying to create an issue when there isn't one.
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flylerid
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Los Angeles, CA Joined: 05.13.2023
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Be prepared for the Flyers to make zero deals, re-sign TK and draft Yakemchuk or Helenius at #12 - BiggE
If that's the worst thing that happens, that's pretty good. Rather that than reaching for something not worth it.
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landros 2
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Centre of universe Joined: 02.07.2007
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Sure
What he meant was that culture in and of itself is meaningless, and what matters are the players knowing they are winners or can be winners. The problem is, the steps he suggested (trading away good players) would lead to a losing culture, at least for the present, and there is a contradiction there that needed clarification. Something like: you need to build a winning culture and the first step towards that is building a losing culture. (Sounds like Alice in Wonderland, but probably true). - PT21
Please do not speak for me…lol… that’s not what I meant … that’s just how you took it… out of context..
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Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 08.12.2020
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landros 2
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Centre of universe Joined: 02.07.2007
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You have "culture", "results", "now" and "future", all mixed up in your mind.
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Your starting to sound like your president… super confused… why am I no surprised. |
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