Drury is younger and has almost matched McCloud point wise and he's already 54% on the Dot
- Buff36

Playing for Brind'amour does that. You don't get to take faceoffs if you're not going to win them more often than not.

Look at it another way. Winnipeg is supposedly asking for 3 Savoies and something else for Ehlers. The price for Zegras or Necas is going to be similar. I am shocked that some of you think that Savoie is more than he is: a middle 6 PROSPECT.

(it also isn't lost on me that we are in some bizarro world where I am arguing to trade the prospects and others are trying to put on the breaks)
- Slump Buster

The overwhelming consensus falls in the category of this is very bad value for Buffalo.

Time will tell.

Playing for Brind'amour does that. You don't get to take faceoffs if you're not going to win them more often than not.
- BINGO!

I'm sure

Playing for Brind'amour does that. You don't get to take faceoffs if you're not going to win them more often than not.
- BINGO!

Would Savoie have gotten Drury ?

I asked the people at CapFriendly a while ago about Jokiharju, and they said his Chicago season does not count towards his UFA eligibility.
- kingcong39

Think Ghofrani said a while back that he asked them and they said the opposite.

CF shows him as UFA after this deal.

The overwhelming consensus falls in the category of this is very bad value for Buffalo.

Time will tell.
- ImThatGuy

So can I quote you on "time will tell" as you repeatedly predict the team's demise in every single post?

Anyway....

I saw ridiculous comparisons with this trade, including Forsberg for Erat. Really stupid stuff. Mcleod's underlying numbers are really impressive, and he did just score 3 goals in the finals while still growing. I think both sides did well.

Would Savoie have gotten Drury ?
- Buff36

probably, but mcleod is a better player.

excited for joker to get traded at the tdl for a 2nd

So can I quote you on "time will tell" as you repeatedly predict the team's demise in every single post?

Anyway....

I saw ridiculous comparisons with this trade, including Forsberg for Erat. Really stupid stuff. Mcleod's underlying numbers are really impressive, and he did just score 3 goals in the finals while still growing. I think both sides did well.
- Slump Buster

I never depicted the demise with this trade?

Up until now Adam’s offseason had been woefully underwhelming.

I thought Savoie would have more value, again who knows.

probably, but mcleod is a better player.
- TheSabresTaco

How's that ? McLeod has played double the NHL Games Drury has. Drury has basically matched him Offensively and is quite a bit better on the Dot.

You sure about that...?

https://puckpedia.com/player/henri-jokiharju
- kingcong39

https://www.capfriendly.c...m/players/henri-jokiharju

Yes

How's that ? McLeod has played double the NHL Games Drury has. Drury has basically matched him Offensively and is quite a bit better on the Dot.
- Buff36

They are the same age……

NHL games played shouldn’t really matter.

yeah idk about this one but it’s an upgrade over krebs

could’ve traded krebs for him

How's that ? McLeod has played double the NHL Games Drury has. Drury has basically matched him Offensively and is quite a bit better on the Dot.
- Buff36

Show the jfresh chart

They are the same age……

NHL games played shouldn’t really matter.
- ImThatGuy

Well by a month

I never depicted the demise with this trade?

Up until now Adam’s offseason had been woefully underwhelming.

I thought Savoie would have more value, again who knows.
- ImThatGuy

No, not with this trade. Just in general, of course.

I don't think any of the prospects have huge value. I think we have 6 or 7 guys that have a middle 6 ceiling - that certainly isn't getting you an established 2nd liner.

I think Adams is one trade away from having a very good offseason. If he overpaid a bit for a couple of guys, so be it. As we've seen, it is expensive to shop right now. That's why teams like the Rags and Leafs have been locked up.

Show the jfresh chart
- DirtyDan

Drurys numbers are really good.

Carolina may not want to move him.

yeah idk about this one but it’s an upgrade over krebs

could’ve traded krebs for him
- Jet Jaguar BD

You don't think they offered him? At present time, he might not dress opening night if he is still here.

The overwhelming consensus falls in the category of this is very bad value for Buffalo.

Time will tell.
- ImThatGuy

They moved a free 2nd for a 4th liner and a guy who was jumped by a few of our own prospects for a young 3C who is one of the fastest players in the league.

There are a few ways to look at it. The Sabres got players that fit their mold of how they want to play (fast and faster) who are both cost controlled (we will see what Malenstyn will cost) for a pick they got for free and a prospect that they felt didn’t have a path in Buffalo.

The team is better on paper today than it was yesterday. They will probably finish higher in points than they did last year. I still don’t think it’s enough for the playoffs though.

Drurys numbers are really good.

Carolina may not want to move him.
- ImThatGuy

I don't think they do, Kotkaniemi sure to free up money.

Honestly, I just don't see it. I think we gave up a lot for a little all off-season. If that trend continues the pipe will be gone quick without having acquired any high impact players at all. McLeod is a 3-4C to me and doesn't move the needle much. We need a big time point getter and you just traded away one of your best chips.
- RhinoFan

NHL GM's don't agree with that.

They moved a free 2nd for a 4th liner and a guy who was jumped by a few of our own prospects for a young 3C who is one of the fastest players in the league.

There are a few ways to look at it. The Sabres got players that fit their mold of how they want to play (fast and faster) who are both cost controlled (we will see what Malenstyn will cost) for a pick they got for free and a prospect that they felt didn’t have a path in Buffalo.

The team is better on paper today than it was yesterday. They will probably finish higher in points than they did last year. I still don’t think it’s enough for the playoffs though.
- Stripes77

He's trying and it's good to see

NHL GM's don't agree with that.
- kingcong39

Big players that can skate are currently valued more than small wingers.

Should of traded him when Marchy won the Conn Smythe.. his was vlaue would of been really high... oh wait his shoulder was hanging by a thread

Weren't there a few just saying these developed prospects were worth much more than we think?

This is catastrophically bad value.
- Lunaion

Yeah, some dude on this site named Taco was claiming that, but it wasn't reality.

You and I have been clamoring for moves to be made for 2 seasons now, due to this very reason.