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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 2 @ 9:32 AM ET
if he moved greenway, krebs, joker in trades and got a top 6 winger and middle pair Rd guy

it would be ok

I doubt he makes a trade for either spots

- homiedclown


I agree. I think he does it. But I'm not holding my breath either. If he came out yesterday and said "ahh you know my team is incomplete, I need to make that trade", it's a signal to the top 6 and fans saying they're not good enough, it's a signal to the other GMs that see chum in the water.
His presser last night was weak and gross but I can understand why he said the things he said in the way that he said them.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 2 @ 9:32 AM ET
So then your 3rd line should look like

Zucker - insert 3C - Kulich / savoie / Rosen?

- Sabretooth9

peterka-tage-tuch
zucker-cozens-quinn
benson-savoie-rosen/kulich

that would be my top 9 with what we have

wont happen
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 2 @ 9:33 AM ET
jordan greenway's departing ass says hello
- TheSabresTaco


Not sure what his return would be. But that would be some nice cap relief.

Move 2.5 mill (just guessing) and girgensons not accepting his 2.5 a year

We have more cap space.

Also moving Clifton is an option
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 2 @ 9:33 AM ET
peterka-tage-tuch
zucker-cozens-quinn
benson-savoie-rosen/kulich

that would be my top 9 with what we have

wont happen

- homiedclown


That is way too much trust in a 3rd line that has little to no nhl experience
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 2 @ 9:34 AM ET
I would say that’s an overpay. By a decent amount.

The caps need to dump salary and not bring any on

- Sabretooth9


The Caps don't need to dump any salary.

Backstrom and Oshie are both going to be on LTIR for the entire season.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 2 @ 9:35 AM ET
jordan greenway's departing ass says hello
- TheSabresTaco

I would bury him on the 4th line with lafferty and malenstyn
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 2 @ 9:35 AM ET
That is way too much trust in a 3rd line that has little to no nhl experience
- Sabretooth9

they are all top 14 picks

no different then throwing vanek, roy and max together after the lockout
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 2 @ 9:36 AM ET
Not sure what his return would be. But that would be some nice cap relief.

Move 2.5 mill (just guessing) and girgensons not accepting his 2.5 a year

We have more cap space.

Also moving Clifton is an option

- Sabretooth9

we don't need cap relief

bought out skinner for 1 year of zucker
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ice girls, please, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Jul 2 @ 9:36 AM ET
It is obvious how you really feel as all of your posts attempting to be positive are littered with maybes that would need to happen for the team to actually be good.
- kingcong39


Fair enough, but when we had Eichel, Reinhart, etc and landed Hall, didn't we all cream our jeans because we were guaranteed to be awesome? Before that, when we had Eich, Rino, traded the farm for all these awesome established players, it was a guarantee we'd be good, right? Those approaches did not work. My point is, everything is a maybe.

Consider Adams comment yesterday about guys not wanting to be in Buffalo and he doesn't give a second thought. That's a supremely dumb thing to say, but I see it as a public way to send a message that Buffalo will no longer be a place where good FA players can get overpaid and not have to play hard, which definitely seems to be the perception (and has been discussed here many times).

You know, maybe last year if our power play was not a disaster we get in the playoffs...well I believe an actual NHL coach should help that. The year before, we scored a lot of goals, but maybe if our TEAM defense was better we woulda got in....well I believe adding a good fast defensive 4th line, finally, will help that (plus our very young D is now a year older).

Maybe is a part of sports. We were extremely young last year and the year before so we have more maybes than other teams, but what I keep telling myself is KA said he wants to build mainly by drafting and developing which is a new approach and, unfortunately, takes a lot of time. But ever since tanking for Eichel we have tried the other approaches, and failed miserably...I have the patience to give this approach a chance.

I'll repeat one thing: we now have a real NHL coach, which we have not had since the last time Lindy left Buffalo. I'm not the biggest Lindy fan in the world but God, he's guaranteed to be better than the garbage coaches we've had the last decade-plus, right?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 2 @ 9:40 AM ET
Oof. I like him better than anyone but Zucker.
- QuinnFan


He's slow (-), he doesn't score (-), he doesn't hit enough (-) and he's good on the PK (+).

Why are we spending 3M on him? Send him out, retain, fill his spot on the roster with Nic Ehlers.

Send Joker to Edmonton for Ryan McLeod or something
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 2 @ 9:40 AM ET
we don't need cap relief

bought out skinner for 1 year of zucker

- homiedclown



If you are trading for a top 6 forward. Getting rid of dead cap weight would be smart.

Ehlers for example has 1 year of 6 mill left. You move out greenway and save 3 mill.

If we do trade for a top 6 guy. Benson slides down to the 3rd line

Zucker - 3C - benson. Something like that
atlsabsfan
Location: IN
Joined: 06.20.2007

Jul 2 @ 9:41 AM ET
That is way too much trust in a 3rd line that has little to no nhl experience
- Sabretooth9


We drafted these guys for a reason. I get what you are saying, but someone needs to step up and lead this team, and it cant always be a vet. Every guy on this team has been a C in their life because of how good they are. Toews was a very early in his career named Captain. The guys on the ice need to hold each other accountable - and that is not happening.



TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 2 @ 9:41 AM ET
I would bury him on the 4th line with lafferty and malenstyn
- homiedclown


NAK is a significantly more useful player than Greenway.

He may play 3RW just so they can roll out a PK of NAK Lafferty Greenway and Dahlin
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 2 @ 9:42 AM ET
If you are trading for a top 6 forward. Getting rid of dead cap weight would be smart.

.

- Sabretooth9

I do not expect him to trade for a top 6 guy
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 2 @ 9:44 AM ET
NAK is a significantly more useful player than Greenway.

He may play 3RW just so they can roll out a PK of NAK Lafferty Greenway and Dahlin

- TheSabresTaco

if this happens there is room for none of the kids up front aside from benson
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 2 @ 9:44 AM ET
I do not expect him to trade for a top 6 guy
- homiedclown


While I think you are correct. It’s day 2 of free agency.

We all know he has trade options. He just needs to man up
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 2 @ 9:45 AM ET
if this happens there is room for none of the kids up front aside from benson
- homiedclown

Go and take that spot
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 2 @ 9:46 AM ET
if this happens there is room for none of the kids up front aside from benson
- homiedclown


Savoie oslund and Kulich in roch isn’t a bad thing

Clearly the Sabres have issues with Kulich already. I wonder what the problem is. He should’ve played more than 1 nhl game
Jet Jaguar BD
Seattle Kraken
Location: BD look 👀 at you pic and you look like a burned out short order cook hiding in mommy basement!!
Joined: 07.17.2021

Jul 2 @ 9:46 AM ET
I agree. I think he does it. But I'm not holding my breath either. If he came out yesterday and said "ahh you know my team is incomplete, I need to make that trade", it's a signal to the top 6 and fans saying they're not good enough, it's a signal to the other GMs that see chum in the water.
His presser last night was weak and gross but I can understand why he said the things he said in the way that he said them.

- TheSabresTaco

Even he sounded sick of hearing himself say “conversations”
Jet Jaguar BD
Seattle Kraken
Location: BD look 👀 at you pic and you look like a burned out short order cook hiding in mommy basement!!
Joined: 07.17.2021

Jul 2 @ 9:48 AM ET
We still need a 3c

That Mittelstadt kid in Colorado would be a great fit

Maybe Byram in a 1f1?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 2 @ 9:49 AM ET
I believe the idea behind Skinner is to not only have a more useful player there right now, but to also replace his production by his expensive year 3 with a Savoie and Kulich.

26-27

Peterka-Thompson-Quinn
Ehlers-Cozens-Benson
Kulich-Helenius-Savoie
Larryland

Tuch will be 30. Too far out to think about, maybe a 3 year 15M deal, not sure where he fits though. By then you know what you have in guys like Rosen, Savoie, Kulich etc
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 2 @ 9:51 AM ET
Even he sounded sick of hearing himself say “conversations”
- Jet Jaguar BD


poopbrick should be.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 2 @ 9:52 AM ET
if this happens there is room for none of the kids up front aside from benson
- homiedclown


Well if they go powerkill they don't really need Greenway anymore.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 2 @ 9:57 AM ET
Well if they go powerkill they don't really need Greenway anymore.
- TheSabresTaco


Even if they don’t get a 3C and rely on Krebs

Quinn or benson drop down to the 3rd line.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jul 2 @ 9:59 AM ET
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