They are full bore going for playoffs this year. In fact, they probably think it was dirty rotten bad luck they missed last year.
- StepfordSam

No goalie, no center, where exactly are they going

No goalie, no center, where exactly are they going
- ClaudeFather

This. The are way too many unknowns at this point. I can’t see them making the playoffs.

We already know they plan on throwing big money at free agents. Jones pretty much said so with all his talk about freeing up cap space in the future.
- MBFlyerfan

And since they are going for the playoffs this season, the Flyers will be picking most likely between 12-16 the highest, plus two picks most likely in the 20s. This IMO will not move the needle one bit. The Flyers have good players. They need elite players, and we already know 1. teams picking in the top 10 will not trade their picks so its a pipe dream to think they can trade up into the top 10 and 2. outside the top 5 its very, very difficult to get a potential elite player a team can develop. Its purgatory at best drafting like this. That is why I feel the Flyers will trade these picks and like you said, try to sign their way to the top. It rarely works. First you need to build a team through drafting high and developing, then you augment with free agents. Once again, another regime thinks they can circumvent the process. Like I said, I know how it ends. Two rounds, maybe three rounds at best, but no Cup and it eventually collapses under the weight of the cap. Unless DB and Jones know something I don't know, like there is more coming this off season. Right now I am not on board.

No goalie, no center, where exactly are they going
- ClaudeFather

and no true 1D.

And since they are going for the playoffs this season, the Flyers will be picking most likely between 12-16 the highest, plus two picks most likely in the 20s. This IMO will not move the needle one bit. The Flyers have good players. They need elite players, and we already know 1. teams picking in the top 10 will not trade their picks so its a pipe dream to think they can trade up into the top 10 and 2. outside the top 5 its very, very difficult to get a potential elite player a team can develop. Its purgatory at best drafting like this. That is why I feel the Flyers will trade these picks and like you said, try to sign their way to the top. It rarely works. First you need to build a team through drafting high and developing, then you augment with free agents. Once again, another regime thinks they can circumvent the process. Like I said, I know how it ends. Two rounds, maybe three rounds at best, but no Cup and it eventually collapses under the weight of the cap. Unless DB and Jones know something I don't know, like there is more coming this off season. Right now I am not on board.
- jd250

Very humorous.

Its amazing. Like they couldn't get the deal done without it? Here ya go TK, not only are we going to over pay you on AAV and years, we will also give you an unnecessary NMC to prevent us from trading your untradeable contract for the foreseeable future.

Its brilliant.
- MBFlyerfan

The thing is, the Flyers would not get the haul everyone thiks they might if they traded TK, because he was due a big contract. So the Flyers were really not in a good position here. All I can say is, I don't like the conract, but it could have been a lot worse. The market was set IMO for TK, and if the Flyers were willing to give him 8 years and a NMC, I think they could have done better with the AAV. Every half million helps here.

Very humorous.
- MJL

Give him some credit. He is at least reading the tea leaves now. 😂

The thing is, the Flyers would not get the haul everyone thiks they might if they traded TK, because he was due a big contract. So the Flyers were really not in a good position here. All I can say is, I don't like the conract, but it could have been a lot worse. The market was set IMO for TK, and if the Flyers were willing to give him 8 years and a NMC, I think they could have done better with the AAV. Every half million helps here.
- jd250

Just when you started making sense. The Flyers had all the control in this situation.

The thing is, the Flyers would not get the haul everyone thiks they might if they traded TK, because he was due a big contract. So the Flyers were really not in a good position here. All I can say is, I don't like the conract, but it could have been a lot worse. The market was set IMO for TK, and if the Flyers were willing to give him 8 years and a NMC, I think they could have done better with the AAV. Every half million helps here.
- jd250

That's false. They were actually in a very good position because he still was signed for this upcoming season. Which meant they could've put him on the market at the draft without having to just take the highest bidder. They could've been patient. There would've been wide spread interest and when teams bid against each other, you can get a good deal. You still don't understand NHL contracts. Konecny had all the leverage.

And since they are going for the playoffs this season, the Flyers will be picking most likely between 12-16 the highest, plus two picks most likely in the 20s. This IMO will not move the needle one bit. The Flyers have good players. They need elite players, and we already know 1. teams picking in the top 10 will not trade their picks so its a pipe dream to think they can trade up into the top 10 and 2. outside the top 5 its very, very difficult to get a potential elite player a team can develop. Its purgatory at best drafting like this. That is why I feel the Flyers will trade these picks and like you said, try to sign their way to the top. It rarely works. First you need to build a team through drafting high and developing, then you augment with free agents. Once again, another regime thinks they can circumvent the process. Like I said, I know how it ends. Two rounds, maybe three rounds at best, but no Cup and it eventually collapses under the weight of the cap. Unless DB and Jones know something I don't know, like there is more coming this off season. Right now I am not on board.
- jd250

This. The are way too many unknowns at this point. I can’t see them making the playoffs.
- Flyfly

Right now I see the Flyers ahead of Columbus, Pittsburgh, Montreal and Ottawa and in a dogfight with the Sabres, Wings, Caps and Islanders. The goal tending will determine if the Flyers are a bottom dweller or in it to the end of the regular season. What has been proclaimed by Jones as a deep and very important draft, the Flyers are doubling down instead to make the playoffs. I don't like it.

That's false. They were actually in a very good position because he still was signed for this upcoming season. Which meant they could've put him on the market at the draft without having to just take the highest bidder. They could've been patient. There would've been wide spread interest and when teams bid against each other, you can get a good deal. You still don't understand NHL contracts. Konecny had all the leverage.
- MJL

How do you know the Flyers didn't explore the market and decided there wasn't anything worth doing? Maybe they dangled TK to move up into the top 5 this draft and teams refused. You don't know anything to truly be able to make this response. And being patient means there is a good chance they head to the deadline and TK is a rental, which brings back a late 1st round pick and maybe a decent prospect. None of this moves the needle for the Flyers IMO. The Flyers need a 1C and 1D, and TK has not getting them that, either by a player to player swap or trading him for a high pick.

Just when you started making sense. The Flyers had all the control in this situation.
- Flyfly

I don't see how you can say that. TK was going to be a UFA after this season, he clearly had the leverage. TKs agent was putting it out there his client wanted $10M per season for a max contract. You don't think this hurt his trade value? Of course it did.

Give him some credit. He is at least reading the tea leaves now. 😂
- Flyfly

More like ducking bricks falling on my head LOL

How do you know the Flyers didn't explore the market and decided there wasn't anything worth doing? Maybe they dangled TK to move up into the top 5 this draft and teams refused. You don't know anything to truly be able to make this response. And being patient means there is a good chance they head to the deadline and TK is a rental, which brings back a late 1st round pick and maybe a decent prospect. None of this moves the needle for the Flyers IMO.
- jd250

LMAO, you offered an opinion, stating that the Flyers weren't in a good spot. I replied disagreeing and stating why. Now you come back with the BS of how do you know. That I don't know anything to be able to make this response. You're completely full of poop. Trading Konecny as a rental at the trade deadline is better than signing him to this deal. You're incapable of actually looking ahead and seeing the big picture. Just like you're now pretending that you've got it all figured out after arguing viciferously for months against anyone who wanted Konecny traded. Remember Konecny is a player you build around and is the face of the franchise? LOL
Let me spell it out for you. Not every move individually has to move to the needle in and of itself. Outside of the deal, what it does is create future cap flexibility. Adds future assets and weakens the team. What do you get if the team is weaker? Let's see if you can figure it out.

LMAO, you offered an opinion, stating that the Flyers weren't in a good spot. I replied disagreeing and stating why. Now you come back with the BS of how do you know. That I don't know anything to be able to make this response. You're completely full of poop. Trading Konecny as a rental at the trade deadline is better than signing him to this deal. You're incapable of actually looking ahead and seeing the big picture. Just like you're now pretending that you've got it all figured out after arguing viciferously for months against anyone who wanted Konecny traded. Remember Konecny is a player you build around and is the face of the franchise? LOL
Let me spell it out for you. Not every move individually has to move to the needle in and of itself. Outside of the deal, what it does is create future cap flexibility. Adds future assets and weakens the team. What do you get if the team is weaker? Let's see if you can figure it out.
- MJL

I think the best option for the Flyers was to try to trade TK to move up to the top 5 and get Demidov in this draft, and I think that is exactly what they tried to do and teams balked. What you don't understand is if you trade TK, you are creating another huge hole on the team that you have to fill. TK is a top line RW in this league that can play even strength, PK and PP, plus is a proven leader. If playing with better players, he can easily top 90 points in a season. Those players don't grow on trees! My problem with this deal and I still don't see a path to get better players on this team while TK is still in his prime, and that is why I would preferred a reset. I hope the Flyers have a plan and I just don't know what it is yet.

and no true 1D.
- jd250

Buium was the 1D deal they didn't take

And since they are going for the playoffs this season, the Flyers will be picking most likely between 12-16 the highest, plus two picks most likely in the 20s. This IMO will not move the needle one bit. The Flyers have good players. They need elite players, and we already know 1. teams picking in the top 10 will not trade their picks so its a pipe dream to think they can trade up into the top 10 and 2. outside the top 5 its very, very difficult to get a potential elite player a team can develop. Its purgatory at best drafting like this. That is why I feel the Flyers will trade these picks and like you said, try to sign their way to the top. It rarely works. First you need to build a team through drafting high and developing, then you augment with free agents. Once again, another regime thinks they can circumvent the process. Like I said, I know how it ends. Two rounds, maybe three rounds at best, but no Cup and it eventually collapses under the weight of the cap. Unless DB and Jones know something I don't know, like there is more coming this off season. Right now I am not on board.
- jd250

Zeev Buium would have been a nice start….

LMAO, you offered an opinion, stating that the Flyers weren't in a good spot. I replied disagreeing and stating why. Now you come back with the BS of how do you know. That I don't know anything to be able to make this response. You're completely full of poop. Trading Konecny as a rental at the trade deadline is better than signing him to this deal. You're incapable of actually looking ahead and seeing the big picture. Just like you're now pretending that you've got it all figured out after arguing viciferously for months against anyone who wanted Konecny traded. Remember Konecny is a player you build around and is the face of the franchise? LOL
Let me spell it out for you. Not every move individually has to move to the needle in and of itself. Outside of the deal, what it does is create future cap flexibility. Adds future assets and weakens the team. What do you get if the team is weaker? Let's see if you can figure it out.
- MJL

And BTW, how many times have you insulted me today already? In the limited time I have spent on this forum today! You once again prove to everyone that you are incapable of a simple conversation without spewing insults.

Zeev Buium would have been a nice start….
- landros 2

Maybe. But once I found out he had the same agent as Gauthier, I think that cleared up why the Flyers passed. I really think Luchenko has a good chance to develop into a good player within a couple of seasons.

Buium was the 1D deal they didn't take
- THE EVIL WITHIN

I don't think he will be a 1D. I see him being very similar to York, a really solid top 4 defenseman. I don't see a Hedman or a Peitrangelo in this player.

I think the best option for the Flyers was to try to trade TK to move up to the top 5 and get Demidov in this draft, and I think that is exactly what they tried to do and teams balked. What you don't understand is if you trade TK, you are creating another huge hole on the team that you have to fill. TK is a top line RW in this league that can play even strength, PK and PP, plus is a proven leader. If playing with better players, he can easily top 90 points in a season. Those players don't grow on trees! My problem with this deal and I still don't see a path to get better players on this team while TK is still in his prime, and that is why I would preferred a reset. I hope the Flyers have a plan and I just don't know what it is yet.
- jd250

That’s what a “rebuilding” team would try.. … regardless if you think a rebuild is needed or not needed any idiot can now see this is not what they are doing. Oh wait they have 3 1rst round picks next year….lol. If Briere is trying to do a rebuild he is as incompetent as the last guy…Rebuilds include making tough decisions and going through painful stretches. The Flyers are clearly NOT willing to do this.

I don't think he will be a 1D. I see him being very similar to York, a really solid top 4 defenseman. I don't see a Hedman or a Peitrangelo in this player.
- jd250

He’s closer to a #1 then anything the flyers have on their team or in their system.

Maybe. But once I found out he had the same agent as Gauthier, I think that cleared up why the Flyers passed. I really think Luchenko has a good chance to develop into a good player within a couple of seasons.
- jd250

Holy (frank)….I would hope the Flyers are more PROFESSIONAL then that.

I think the best option for the Flyers was to try to trade TK to move up to the top 5 and get Demidov in this draft, and I think that is exactly what they tried to do and teams balked. What you don't understand is if you trade TK, you are creating another huge hole on the team that you have to fill. TK is a top line RW in this league that can play even strength, PK and PP, plus is a proven leader. If playing with better players, he can easily top 90 points in a season. Those players don't grow on trees! My problem with this deal and I still don't see a path to get better players on this team while TK is still in his prime, and that is why I would preferred a reset. I hope the Flyers have a plan and I just don't know what it is yet.
- jd250

Perfect example of how you don't think. You can only come up with the right stance after it's pounded into you. You still can't grasp that there was no chance for the Flyers to have traded up in the top 5. No matter how many times that has been explained to you. You just got done telling me that I didn't know if something happened so how could I make a statement. Now here you are posting that you think something happened that you don't know. More evidence of how full of poop you are.

Now you're trying to tell me that I don't understand and are embarrassing yourself. After I just got done telling you that it weakens the team. I just told you that but you say I don't understand. LOL. Here is what you don't understand. Who cares if it created a huge hole. Good! They should be rebuilding! Huge holes are good for getting higher draft picks!

You don't know what their plan is? Myself and many others have told you what their plan is! LOL. Remember when you argued that Jones didn't say what he actually said in the press conference that you linked to? We've been telling you for how long now what their plan is. Of course, you won't get it because in your world, you haven't realized that the sun came up today.