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corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Today @ 10:11 AM ET
According to the data New York City is one of the safest places.

Now let's look at Ristolainen's analytics data, but first lets remove all the bad games...but the data says it!!!

- Glak18



https://www.independent.c...istics-2024-b2561552.html
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Today @ 10:15 AM ET
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/fbi-crime-statistics-2024-b2561552.html
- corduroy


I know, it’s cherry picked data. That’s why we are in a war of the data charts.

We need the FBI to release data on egg prices…eggs have always been $10+. People just never paid attention….
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Today @ 10:18 AM ET
In other news…

Shoplifting in Circuit City store have declined drastically in the last decade…
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Today @ 10:19 AM ET
In other news…

Shoplifting in Circuit City store have declined drastically in the last decade…

- Glak18


Facts!
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Today @ 10:36 AM ET
https://www.pewresearch.o...ys-about-crime-in-the-us/

The FBI data also shows a 59% reduction in the U.S. property crime rate between 1993 and 2022, with big declines in the rates of burglary (-75%), larceny/theft (-54%) and motor vehicle theft (-53%).
..
How do Americans perceive crime in their country?
Americans tend to believe crime is up, even when official data shows it is down.

- Flyers_01


Those specific crimes are down. I would argue cyber crime has increased as much or more in that same time period. Obviously not a violent crime but a crime nonetheless.
Hosher12
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.15.2020

Today @ 11:24 AM ET
I heard this froma friend who heard it from a friend:

The players and coaches on the bench will loudly yell "SHOOT" to encourage getting more pucks on net

Also heard that players and coaches will also yell "HIT HIM" and "insert name SUCKS"

Take it for what it is worth

- corduroy


That sounds like a brilliant and tight plan!!
The person who developed this needs a promotion!!

PS say my name!
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Today @ 11:25 AM ET
Charlie O'Connor
@charlieo_conn
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Important lines in this group:

Tippett - Frost - Michkov
Farabee - Luchanko - Cates
Lycksell - Abols - Eklind

Seeler - Drysdale
Andrea - Johnson
Ginning - Bonk
Hosher12
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.15.2020

Today @ 11:28 AM ET
In other news…

Shoplifting in Circuit City store have declined drastically in the last decade…

- Glak18


In KMart and Sears too!!
I’d definitely call that a trend!!
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Today @ 11:31 AM ET
Those specific crimes are down. I would argue cyber crime has increased as much or more in that same time period. Obviously not a violent crime but a crime nonetheless.
- mickel25
Considering cyber crime was virtually non existent in 1993 you are most likely correct.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Today @ 11:34 AM ET
In KMart and Sears too!!
I’d definitely call that a trend!!

- Hosher12


Went to blockbuster and everything was gone they may be getting heisted as well.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Today @ 11:51 AM ET
yea kind if it, I find myself at the beginning of the season hoping what he says will be true, that he will learn and adjust, and his content was good. Truth, I am a fan and will always go into the season with hope, the fear, I think Torts will apply what he learned but will lean on the Ryan P and S Laughton's of the world to accomplish what he is referring to. I hear what he says about dirty goal and immediately know, that is why Brink and Frost were benched last game. Torts has to be the smartest guy in the room, need greasy goals, must need a grinder to do it. I will go in hoping Torts applies what he learned, hoping DB took him to task for his personnel decisions last season , hope is not a plan but it is a Flyers fan only path forward.

I think most of us going into last season agreed, if the kids took a step, TK played well, Coots was decent, we had a bubble team, that is what we had.

I can see 2 paths this year

Coots is actually better, TK is TK, Kids take another small step, MM is as advertised, goal tending holds up and they are still a bubble team.

Coots is the same, kids are the same, MM does not have enough around him and goal tending is what it was 2nd half of last year, the Flyers are bottom 5.


The first is my hope, make the playoffs, just a fan wanting to watch his team play.

The 2nd is what they need and I want or the future.

This is a rebuild, their version of a rebuild, you can hear that when Torts and DB speak. Their version believes in the kids on the roster or coming up, the picks over the next 2 seasons. I get it, they have built the current group, that group has talent, I am sure they discuss elite talent and the draft. I am sure they know trading up in the first round is a long shot. I hope (that word again) DB sees they could take a step back this season (he said as much), I hope he is ready to move Laughton, move RR, move a Farabee in the right deal, move a Hathaway, Ryan P, a Cates, move them all mid- season, load up on picks or young prospects and look towards 2026.

- wcorvette


At the end of the day Torts benched Frost and Brink because he doesnt trust them enough to put them out in those situations. Frankly if I was coach I wouldnt have played Brink either. He was disappointing for most the season. The only forwards with less points than Brink last season where Cates, Hathaway and Deslaurier. Pehling had more points than Brink. So benching him I dont have an issue with.

Frost on the other hand should have been played. He was the best C on the team at the time. Couturier was basically dead. He shouldnt have been in the lineup and the funny thing is the whole Torts scratching Coots thing was done because Torts knew Coots wouldnt use the injury as an excuse and sit voluntarily. He should not have been playing at all. It showed in his play he couldnt play through it. Poehling had a great season given his limited skill. The only reason for not playing Frost IMO would be to force him to earn time rather than having him given the time because everyone else is garbage. That would suggest to me he isnt as hung up on winning games as he says he is.

Frankly I dont think it really mattered who was out there. I dont think theres a scenario where we win that game
Hosher12
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.15.2020

Today @ 11:56 AM ET
Went to blockbuster and everything was gone they may be getting heisted as well.
- bird_dog_pa


😂
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Today @ 12:43 PM ET
I just read that apparently LA and NYPD crime stats are not included in the official stats. Apart from the sheer unbelievability of this assertion ( equivalent to the Census not including California in their count), it also defies common sense.

If crime rates are up, the police force would clamor to make that data public, because it would mean public demand for more resources to them.

But anyway, in 5 minutes time, I was able to find the official crime stats. Needless to say, violent crime (and all crime) in NYPD is available, and follows the general trend of large declines.

hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Today @ 1:03 PM ET
I agree with your assessment. The only thing that has to change really is the use of younger players. If for example Andrae or Attard show they are NHL defenseman, Briere has to do the right thing and move out some veterans and let them play. The GM sets the roster, and Briere can really take some of the veteran options away from Torts. Look, at the end of the day, Torts, like any good coach, is wired to win, and will play the players that he feels gives the team the best chance to win. Torts is not thinking about tomorrow, he is thinking about the present and trying to win this game.
- jd250

Briere does what Torts tells him to do. If you think Briere is making roster decisions without Torts approval you are dreaming.
hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Today @ 1:07 PM ET
in this case yes as it is the first day of camp.

if MM did quit on the drill I could care less. cold also care less if he finished first. heard where?

- hello it's me 2050

Welcome to the NHL MM.....
hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Today @ 1:09 PM ET
I agree. I think it certainly matters if he quit on these exercises. It's not a good sign and he comes with a reputation of pushing back at things he doesn't like. Wouldn't that be a kick in the groin if he decides he wants to go back to the KHL after all. Just kidding...I hope!
- Phillywhiteout

He was just sited at Phil Airport I International Terminal???
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Today @ 1:26 PM ET
I just read that apparently LA and NYPD crime stats are not included in the official stats. Apart from the sheer unbelievability of this assertion ( equivalent to the Census not including California in their count), it also defies common sense.

If crime rates are up, the police force would clamor to make that data public, because it would mean public demand for more resources to them.

But anyway, in 5 minutes time, I was able to find the official crime stats. Needless to say, violent crime (and all crime) in NYPD is available, and follows the general trend of large declines.


- PT21


The article from the Independent clearly states:

"However, data informing the FBI’s figures is supplied voluntarily by law enforcement agencies across the US, and do not include major metropolitan areas including Los Angeles and New York, where crime is historically high. The LAPD and NYPD are the two largest police forces in the nation, but they are not included in the FBI data, which could have changed the data if it had been included. "

https://www.independent.c...istics-2024-b2561552.html

Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Today @ 1:28 PM ET
Drysdale at 196, if he can stay healthy, like to see what that does for his game.
- wcorvette

Sometimes putting on too much weight/muscle deters players from their best playing-shape selves. I distinctly remember Roenick bulking up over the summer I believe his 2nd season after signing with the Flyers and you could see his speed / quickness was affected as a result. He even talked about it when the season ended. For a younger player like Luchanko it's probably more of a boon as he's attempting to play up to the NHL with bigger, stronger, faster pro players.
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