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furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
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Sep 23 @ 9:25 PM ET
Not even a little. There has been jobs up for grabs …and he just never seems to put it all together. Has the tools…but …
- landros 2

When has there been jobs up for grabs?

I am not saying he should be on the NHL roster by any means. He has never been given an extended opportunity to find out.

Roster is set to start the season. No matter how he or others may play. No opportunity from what I can see.
Dkos
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Sep 23 @ 9:31 PM ET
anyone seen Risto this period? He hurt again?

NVM. There he is
landros 2
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Sep 23 @ 9:32 PM ET
When has there been jobs up for grabs?

I am not saying he should be on the NHL roster by any means. He has never been given an extended opportunity to find out.

Roster is set to start the season. No matter how he or others may play. No opportunity from what I can see.

- furio16

Zamula last year? Walker wasn’t exactly setting the world on fire when he arrived (salary dump)..Off the top of my head. I mean he just doesn’t look any better then when he got here…I liked his game but just don’t see the improvement.
furio16
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Sep 23 @ 9:33 PM ET
Zamula last year? Off the top of my head.
- landros 2

Zamula plays the left side. Attard plays the right side.
landros 2
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Sep 23 @ 9:34 PM ET
Zamula plays the left side. Attard plays the right side.
- furio16


So?
landros 2
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Sep 23 @ 9:35 PM ET
Zamula plays the left side. Attard plays the right side.
- furio16

You actually hit he’s gotten a raw deal?
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Sep 23 @ 9:36 PM ET
Zamula plays the left side. Attard plays the right side.
- furio16


if he's not blowing folks away in LHV what makes you think he'll fare better on the flyers?


they've watched his game plenty
furio16
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Sep 23 @ 9:37 PM ET
So?
- landros 2

You don’t think that matters?
landros 2
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Sep 23 @ 9:39 PM ET
You don’t think that matters?
- furio16


Not as much as you think obviously.….
landros 2
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Sep 23 @ 9:41 PM ET
if he's not blowing folks away in LHV what makes you think he'll fare better on the flyers?


they've watched his game plenty

- anti-lame


I hoped by now he would have progressed….I just think there’s better options…he struggled tonight.
furio16
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Sep 23 @ 9:43 PM ET
if he's not blowing folks away in LHV what makes you think he'll fare better on the flyers?

- anti-lame

Then no one on the Phantoms will ever make the NHL since according to you they are not blowing anyone away.

Can you clarify what defines blowing folks away as a defenseman in the AHL. He was selected to the all star game so must have been doing something right.

Did Zamula ever blow folks away? How about Foerster?
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
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Sep 23 @ 9:45 PM ET
Not as much as you think obviously.….
- landros 2

Guess teams are wrong as well as that 100% comes into play.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
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Sep 23 @ 9:46 PM ET
Petersen is awful, just awful.
Nivcheret
Philadelphia Flyers
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Sep 23 @ 9:46 PM ET
Wow that was brutal. A real sh*tshow. No offense (pun intended) but looking at that lineup I was wondering if they'd score any goals. I was looking forward to watching Brink again, Foerster and Bonk.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 23 @ 9:48 PM ET
Not if it’s a one way contract…..
- landros 2


There is no salary cap in the AHL and there is no maximum salary. A player doesn't have to be on a one way NHL contract to make good money in the AHL. For example, on the Flyers, Anthony Richard is signed to a two way NHL contract. His NHL salary 775K and his AHL salary is 500K. Most AHL teams will have a veteran player or two signed to higher AHL salary on a two way contract.
landros 2
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Sep 23 @ 9:48 PM ET
Guess teams are wrong as well as that 100% comes into play.
- furio16


If you say so….so he never got an opportunity because he’s a RH d man…alrighty then.
furio16
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Sep 23 @ 9:49 PM ET
If you say so….
- landros 2

Teams say so.

No matter how good Attard may play they would not use him as a replacement for Zamula. Use some common sense.
landros 2
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Sep 23 @ 9:51 PM ET
Teams say so.

No matter how good Attard may play they would not use him as a replacement for Zamula. Use some common sense.

- furio16

Oh so you had Zamula ahead of Attard before last year?
furio16
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Sep 23 @ 9:53 PM ET
Oh so you had Zamula ahead of Attard before last year?
- landros 2

What part are you not grasping?
landros 2
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Sep 23 @ 9:55 PM ET
There is no salary cap in the AHL and there is no maximum salary. A player doesn't have to be on a one way NHL contract to make good money in the AHL. For example, on the Flyers, Anthony Richard is signed to a two way NHL contract. His NHL salary 775K and his AHL salary is 500K. Most AHL teams will have a veteran player or two signed to higher AHL salary on a two way contract.
- MJL

My point is if a guy has an NHL salary….that’s what he makes….like Peterson….he makes his full NHL salary….perhaps I didn’t articulate that. The are guaranteed contracts.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Sep 23 @ 9:55 PM ET
Well that game wasn't worth suffering through the French commercials to watch
landros 2
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Sep 23 @ 9:56 PM ET
What part are you not grasping?
- furio16

Go fight your wife….I’m to busy celebrating Phillies win.
MJL
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Sep 23 @ 9:59 PM ET
My point is if a guy has an NHL salary….that’s what he makes….like Peterson….he makes his full NHL salary….perhaps I didn’t articulate that. The are guaranteed contracts.
- landros 2


Petersen's contract is one way, so he makes the same salary whether he is in the AHL or the NHL. You are correct on that.
landros 2
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Sep 23 @ 10:01 PM ET
Petersen's contract is one way, so he makes the same salary whether he is in the AHL or the NHL. You are correct on that.
- MJL

Thanks.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
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Sep 23 @ 10:02 PM ET
Then no one on the Phantoms will ever make the NHL since according to you they are not blowing anyone away.

Can you clarify what defines blowing folks away as a defenseman in the AHL. He was selected to the all star game so must have been doing something right.

Did Zamula ever blow folks away? How about Foerster?

- furio16


Foerster came to camp and blew people away, that is why he made the team. The Flyers were not expecting both him and Brink to make the team.

To make the team you have to be better than the players on it. Zamula earned his spot. Attard hasnt earned jack. If he continues to play like he did tonight he has no business being on the team. Ive heard the Flyers are higher on Ginning than Attard. Even if the Flyers made a move to make room for a call up, Andrae and Ginning have looked much better than Attard.
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