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hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 25 @ 8:16 AM ET
If he come in next year and looks stronger with more weight on and shows he can handle games vs something closer to real nhl rosters, then consider it. I see no shame in him not starting with the big club a couple years from now.

Interesting that we signed that tender makiniemi. This really closes the door on kolosov this season I would think and the terrible play of Petersen really forced their hand I’d say. All that kolosov had to do was come in, start in the an and wait for an injury with feds or sam and he’d have gotten his shot. Really blew it imo.

- Hextall271

the door is still open for him to return imo. up to him obviously.
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Sep 25 @ 8:16 AM ET
And Bedard isn't Luchanko. Luchanko is apparently a gym rat and he scored among the highest in many fitness tests. The next Brindy is upon us!!

- Phillywhiteout


I think it’s still too early in camp….he’s played “one” game lol. Let’s let it play out. If the kid earns a longer look ….so be it. I still think he will be returned to Guelph. Physically he’s closer to handling it than most “just turned 18 year olds” but I also think mentally although appearing to be a mature kid is a tough sell. Let him eventually make his way back to Jr and hopefully have another outstanding season. I will say after watching a few of his games I’ve figured out why scouts scout and guys like me female dog and moan about their choices…I think they got a good one.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 25 @ 8:19 AM ET
I don't think that closes the door on Kolosov.
- MJL


So you think he'll change his mind and come over, then we'd release Eetu? My point is that it does not appear to me that he has any intent of coming over at all.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Sep 25 @ 8:19 AM ET
You can ask a question any way you want and put limits on it but I'm not bound by that. Apparently you don't know what is meant by Luchanko is not Bedard. If you understood that, you would know there was no deflection.
- MJL


Apparently you don’t stand by your blanket statement that an 18 year old isn’t physically mature enough to play in the NHL, nor the term “deflection”

Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 25 @ 8:20 AM ET
the door is still open for him to return imo. up to him obviously.
- hello it's me 2050


I think at the very least it means they don't expect him to come over any time soon. I wonder how long they can toll his contract? Can they terminate it if he decides he never wants to come over?
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Sep 25 @ 8:20 AM ET
I don't think that closes the door on Kolosov.
- MJL


Agreed…it just pushes him down in the pecking order in the present. We all know that can change pretty quickly at that position.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Sep 25 @ 8:22 AM ET
I think it’s still too early in camp….he’s played “one” game lol. Let’s let it play out. If the kid earns a longer look ….so be it. I still think he will be returned to Guelph. Physically he’s closer to handling it than most “just turned 18 year olds” but I also think mentally although appearing to be a mature kid is a tough sell. Let him eventually make his way back to Jr and hopefully have another outstanding season. I will say after watching a few of his games I’ve figured out why scouts scout and guys like me female dog and moan about their choices…I think they got a good one.
- landros 2
Yeah, I agree. I'm just going a bit over the top to get a rise out of a few folks on here. I see no harm in keeping him for a 9 game trial just to get his feet wet, but I also would have no problem if they send him back to junior tomorrow. I'm just happy that he may have actually been a legit pick that can fill a need that this team badly needs!
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Sep 25 @ 8:22 AM ET
You can ask a question any way you want and put limits on it but I'm not bound by that. Apparently you don't know what is meant by Luchanko is not Bedard. If you understood that, you would know there was no deflection.
- MJL

You’re not giving the same respect you’re demanding. I don’t think Luchanko makes the team. My point as argued, I don’t think where Luchanko plays in October matters and no way shape or form hurts him when sent down.
landros 2
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Sep 25 @ 8:23 AM ET
I think at the very least it means they don't expect him to come over any time soon. I wonder how long they can toll his contract? Can they terminate it if he decides he never wants to come over?
- Hextall271


They don’t have to terminate at all….toll his contract (while not paying him obviously) and he remains an asset. There is no limit to how long they actually will hold his rights. That’s what is puzzling about this. The kid has “zero” leverage to play in the NHL without the Flyers having all the control.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 25 @ 8:26 AM ET
They don’t have to terminate at all….toll his contract (while not paying him obviously) and he remains an asset. There is no limit to how long they actually will hold his rights. That’s what is puzzling about this. The kid has “zero” leverage to play in the NHL without the Flyers having all the control.
- landros 2


It is very strange to me. He must have had a horrible experience last year in LHV and doesn't want to ride the bus anymore or something. Very curious.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 25 @ 8:27 AM ET
So you think he'll change his mind and come over, then we'd release Eetu? My point is that it does not appear to me that he has any intent of coming over at all.
- Hextall271

no just move on from Cal imo. echl or loan him out.

he is a sunk cost cap and money wise. can they just flat out release him and pay him his money?

if he isn't playing and getting paid he may change his mind. much more to this story imo.
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Sep 25 @ 8:28 AM ET
It is very strange to me. He must have had a horrible experience last year in LHV and doesn't want to ride the bus anymore or something. Very curious.
- Hextall271


You just never know what actually is behind it. Kids holding a golden ticket to be one step, one injury, one slumping goalie away from being in the best league in the world.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Sep 25 @ 8:30 AM ET
You’re not giving the same respect you’re demanding. I don’t think Luchanko makes the team. My point as argued, I don’t think where Luchanko plays in October matters and no way shape or form hurts him when sent down.
- roenick97


Nuance escapes some. Rigidity of thought sometimes prevails. The need to be right instead of evolving a conversation, to some, is what’s most important.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 25 @ 8:39 AM ET
So you think he'll change his mind and come over, then we'd release Eetu? My point is that it does not appear to me that he has any intent of coming over at all.
- Hextall271


No, Kolosov still has to walk through that door.


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 25 @ 8:44 AM ET
Apparently you don’t stand by your blanket statement that an 18 year old isn’t physically mature enough to play in the NHL, nor the term “deflection”
- mikeyo27


My statement is that Luchanko is not ready to play full time in the NHL and not being fully physically mature is one reason why. I think you have a reading comprehension issue.

As far as Bedard is concerned. His ability to make plays and put up points at the NHL level. Almost a point per game player on a bad team, as an 18 year old, is enough to overcome any issues with not being physically mature. Luchanko does not possess that same ability as an 18 year old in my opinion. It's not a deflection. It's simply assuming that the above concerning Bedard, did not need to be explained. I guess I got that wrong.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 25 @ 8:47 AM ET
Nuance escapes some. Rigidity of thought sometimes prevails. The need to be right instead of evolving a conversation, to some, is what’s most important.
- mikeyo27


Nuance is needed with the comment of Luchanko is not Bedard? The comment is pretty self explanatory.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Sep 25 @ 9:10 AM ET
Just for fun: all you guys talking about the need to preserve our European culture, and you musicians here, and everyone else: what is the piano movement playing in the background at the beginning of this Petyon Manning ad?

Don't use a sound app: the voice distorts the ID.


- PT21



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PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Sep 25 @ 9:24 AM ET
Can we make it a rule that a post can't be multiple paragraphs? Multiple pages are just 4 or 5 posts. Each post had a multiple paragraph reply along with the multiple original post.
- WhiskeyMan




Pure gold
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 25 @ 10:01 AM ET
I think at the very least it means they don't expect him to come over any time soon. I wonder how long they can toll his contract? Can they terminate it if he decides he never wants to come over?
- Hextall271

I hope the Flyers don't terminate the contract nor toll it. I want them to make an example of Kolosov and stop him from ever playing a game in the NHL.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 25 @ 10:04 AM ET
You just never know what actually is behind it. Kids holding a golden ticket to be one step, one injury, one slumping goalie away from being in the best league in the world.
- landros 2

I don't think it had anything to do with the experience. Kolosov clearly does not want to play in the AHL and ride buses. He wants a direct ticket to the NHL. Well, it does not work that way and honestly he should know better as a goalie.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 25 @ 10:13 AM ET
I hope the Flyers don't terminate the contract nor toll it. I want them to make an example of Kolosov and stop him from ever playing a game in the NHL.
- jd250


Stop and think for a minute how ridiculous that is. He is a 22 year old kid who has made a bad decision for whatever reason. You want to ruin his life for it. You need to grow up.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Sep 25 @ 12:06 PM ET
My statement is that Luchanko is not ready to play full time in the NHL and not being fully physically mature is one reason why. I think you have a reading comprehension issue.

As far as Bedard is concerned. His ability to make plays and put up points at the NHL level. Almost a point per game player on a bad team, as an 18 year old, is enough to overcome any issues with not being physically mature. Luchanko does not possess that same ability as an 18 year old in my opinion. It's not a deflection. It's simply assuming that the above concerning Bedard, did not need to be explained. I guess I got that wrong.

- MJL


Not a single person is advocating for Jett to be a full time nhl player this season. We are talking about 9 games
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