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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Sep 25 @ 4:02 PM ET
And for those exact reasons you should have no faith in him being productive across a full season, no chance he plays 70 games in my book
- ClaudeFather


Really? You dont think having a season under his belt will improve his ability to endure the upcoming season? You dont think the fact that hes healthy wont improve his production?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 25 @ 4:05 PM ET
Really? You dont think having a season under his belt will improve his ability to endure the upcoming season? You dont think the fact that hes healthy wont improve his production?
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Really? He didn’t finish the season and he was horrible in the second half. He sucked and couldn’t keep up. And then he had surgery in the off season. So now you think he’s magically built for an entire season of productive hockey? Get your head out of your rear end.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Sep 25 @ 4:09 PM ET
Really? He didn’t finish the season and he was horrible in the second half. He sucked and couldn’t keep up. And then he had surgery in the off season. So now you think he’s magically built for an entire season of productive hockey? Get your head out of your rear end.
- ClaudeFather


Fine, Screenshotting. When Coots hits the 50 point mark this season, Ill be here
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 25 @ 4:10 PM ET
Fine, Screenshotting. When Coots hits the 50 point mark this season, Ill be here
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

😂 , let’s revisit this conversation at the 50 game mark
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Sep 25 @ 4:12 PM ET
Really? You dont think having a season under his belt will improve his ability to endure the upcoming season? You dont think the fact that hes healthy wont improve his production?
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

I don’t have a magic 8 ball myself and there has been a poop tone of concern surrounding the health of Drysdale and Rostolainen this summer to the point that I forgot about Coots. I’d put up large paper, folding money that Coots is the guy we should be most concerned about, especially because of his deal. I hope I’m wrong. I hope Coots plays and plays well but man, the second half of the season was tough to watch.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 25 @ 4:14 PM ET
Fine, Screenshotting. When Coots hits the 50 point mark this season, Ill be here
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

what is your expectation foe ex selke this year?
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Sep 25 @ 4:14 PM ET
I don’t have a magic 8 ball myself and there has been a poop tone of concern surrounding the health of Drysdale and Rostolainen this summer to the point that I forgot about Coots. I’d put up large paper, folding money that Coots is the guy we should be most concerned about, especially because of his deal. I hope I’m wrong. I hope Coots plays and plays well but man, the second half of the season was tough to watch.
- roenick97


Id be concerned if his back seemed to be the issue. It does not appear to be.

xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Sep 25 @ 4:15 PM ET
what is your expectation foe ex selke this year?
- hello it's me 2050


Minimum 50 points. I think it will still take time to get back to where he was at.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 25 @ 4:17 PM ET
It is absolutely correct. In my line of work, I interact directly with loss prevention officers of numerous major retailers in the city. Go into Wal-Mart and see how everything is locked up. Krasner's policy of making it a summary offense has resulted in shoplifting becoming a crime that isn't prosecuted in a lot of cases. Resulting in police ignoring the crime.Resulting in organized crime rings shoplifting from stores and reselling online.
- MJL

when do you work?
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Sep 25 @ 4:17 PM ET
😂 , let’s revisit this conversation at the 50 game mark
- ClaudeFather


Seems odd place to stop conidering according to you he wouldnt be falling apart until after. Barring some sort of injury that causes him significant time I guarantee 50 points by the end of the year.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Sep 25 @ 4:18 PM ET
It is absolutely correct. In my line of work, I interact directly with loss prevention officers of numerous major retailers in the city. Go into Wal-Mart and see how everything is locked up. Krasner's policy of making it a summary offense has resulted in shoplifting becoming a crime that isn't prosecuted in a lot of cases. Resulting in police ignoring the crime.Resulting in organized crime rings shoplifting from stores and reselling online.
- MJL


Sorry. Not correct.

The DA has amped up efforts to rid the city of such thefts by creating a retail theft task force and changing the $500 policy you speak of.

It's only a summary offense for first timers who walk away with an item valued less that $150.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Sep 25 @ 4:18 PM ET
Fair enough. In his case, perhaps the issue was him chasing them down. In which case, those stand your ground type laws may not apply.

I remember the case some years back when a German high school exchange student went trick or treating in Minnesota I think, and ended up at the wrong house and was legally shot dead.

- PT21


Yeah the laws can be pretty inconsistent or even nuanced from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. Of course the laws in Texas are gonna be different from those in California. Some cases can get really weird, where someone might be justified in killing someone in defense of the home but guilty of possession of an illegal firearm. Fun stuff.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 25 @ 4:19 PM ET
You dont think the reason he couldnt handle a full season was because

1) missed pretty much 2 full seasons
2) Was heavily played for a guy who hadnt played in 2 years
3) Had a Sports Hernia around the time of the decline.

Like many young players the ability to endure a full season doesnt just happen overnight. Coots has to get his endurance back. It is like expecting Landeskog to return for Colorado and perform at a level he played at before his injury all season long. It isnt going to happen. Everyone here knew Coots was playing too much given the amount of time missed. Torts didnt care and neither did Coots because frankly Torts had to scratch him to get him out of the lineup. He wouldnt do it himself knowing he couldnt play at an acceptable level

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


I don't think we should write Couturier off but we also shouldn't be fully confident that he will get back to where he was. Couturier was not going to pull himself out of the lineup and he shouldn't have been taken out.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 25 @ 4:19 PM ET
Seems odd place to stop conidering according to you he wouldnt be falling apart until after. Barring some sort of injury that causes him significant time I guarantee 50 points by the end of the year.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

This should age well
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 25 @ 4:21 PM ET
Minimum 50 points. I think it will still take time to get back to where he was at.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

so at some point you expect him to get back to when he was a 70 point plus center
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 25 @ 4:22 PM ET
Sorry. Not correct.

The DA has amped up efforts to rid the city of such thefts by creating a retail task force and changing the $500 policy you speak of.

It's only a summary offense for first timers who walk away with an item valued less that $150.

- 77rams


Yes, recently he has but the damage has been done. His policies have resulted in non-enforcement and massive amounts of retail theft. That's just the reality. Again, go into Wal-Mart and try to get a basic item off the shelf. A lot of it is locked up behind lock and key and you have to get an associate to get it for you. I deal with the loss prevention managers. It was so bad that Philly's new mayor declared a public safety emergency to deal with the problem. Created by Krasner and his lunatic policies.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 25 @ 4:22 PM ET
I don't think we should right Couturier off but we also shouldn't be fully confident that he will get back to where he was. Couturier was not going to pull himself out of the lineup and he shouldn't have been taken out.
- MJL

your opinion is noted.
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Sep 25 @ 4:28 PM ET
It's very strange and I don't get it either. He must be getting bad advice from somewhere. I agree with you. Honour the contract and see where it takes you.
- Hextall271


Or potentially psychological/ mental health issue.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 25 @ 4:31 PM ET
Or potentially psychological/ mental health issue.
- missingmike

or the flyers lied to him and he wants no part of the orginization.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Sep 25 @ 4:31 PM ET
Sorry. Not correct.

The DA has amped up efforts to rid the city of such thefts by creating a retail theft task force and changing the $500 policy you speak of.

It's only a summary offense for first timers who walk away with an item valued less that $150.

- 77rams


It was also never the case that they would go free if amount was less than $500. A summary offense still involves a fine, and more importantly, stays on your record and raises the ante if you are caught again.

But now, the $150 threshhold makes it aligned with PA statutes

I do however agree the shoplifting has been allowed to get out of hand and a severe crackdown is in order.

PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Sep 25 @ 4:32 PM ET
Thank you for taking the time out of reading to kindergarten children in costume.

- flyer_nutter


Thank you. Hope my voice was not too loud.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Sep 25 @ 4:33 PM ET
Fine, Screenshotting. When Coots hits the 50 point mark this season, Ill be here
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Couple of years back, we used to have these battles about Couts versus Brayden Point (I favored the latter).
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 25 @ 4:38 PM ET
It was also never the case that they would go free if amount was less than $500. A summary offense still involves a fine, and more importantly, stays on your record and raises the ante if you are caught again.

But now, the $150 threshhold makes it aligned with PA statutes

I do however agree the shoplifting has been allowed to get out of hand and a severe crackdown is in order.

- PT21


You're incorrect that it was never the case that they would go free. It happened routinely for years.

How has shoplifting gotten out of hand if they would never go free? How were organized crime shoplifting rings formed and thrived?

No graphs or charts for this one? It was never about laws on the books. It is about non enforcement.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Sep 25 @ 4:41 PM ET
Id be concerned if his back seemed to be the issue. It does not appear to be.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

I have yet to meet a super individual you has completely recovered from a bad back and play like their old self. John LeClair’s return from a bad back was devastating to me. He was still good but never the same.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Sep 25 @ 4:45 PM ET
Yes, recently he has but the damage has been done. His policies have resulted in non-enforcement and massive amounts of retail theft. That's just the reality. Again, go into Wal-Mart and try to get a basic item off the shelf. A lot of it is locked up behind lock and key and you have to get an associate to get it for you. I deal with the loss prevention managers. It was so bad that Philly's new mayor declared a public safety emergency to deal with the problem. Created by Krasner and his lunatic policies.
- MJL


I agree. It was a terrible problem. It has been addressed by the creation of a new task force and has begun to show positive results.
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