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Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Today @ 12:27 PM ET
I'd prefer Yawney to Runblad. Not convinced the year Vlasic was running the PP in Rockford is going to transfer to his NHL game. Not as confident about Allan and or Del Mastro having impacts at the NHL level. Hope I am wrong.
- stevefrmglencoe



So would most here, but my point was that I don't think you NEED a former player or NHL coach to get good results.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Today @ 12:38 PM ET
LR is very fortunate that there are no expectations for this team to do anything, the media is soft on him, the owner's are drunken bloats, and the GM sent almost all the prospects to Rockford so he has a veteran roster and has little development to be held accountable for.

I love your passion and optimism. I respectfully disagree about Rockford being well planned out. AHL is a tough league. The teams that win there are typically a bit older. So many young prospects I fear them getting kicked around on the ice and in the standings. Not sure that is the ideal development situation. Hope I am wrong.

- stevefrmglencoe


Yeah, I think LR will have a much bigger spotlight on his results this year. The local media tends to realize the situation and will give a bit more rope than most others.

I go back and forth on agreeing with the long game or shortening the runway to take advantage of the cheap contracts. The more I think about it, I want them to speed it up a bit which is why I'm happy they brough in the vets.

I like the AHL route for a lot of these kids (sorry Fattybeef) as they can work on a lot of stuff without as much pressure. I think if Arty was healthy the entire time, he would have had a good shot of at least starting the year with the big club.

The "wait and see" portion of the rebuild is frustrating as hell.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Today @ 12:41 PM ET
Here's a list of Hawks prospects not in college or AHL are playing this year.

https://www.bleachernatio...-are-playing-this-season/

Is it just me or does it seem that their Euro picks are kind of afterthoughts?
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Today @ 12:43 PM ET
Ben Pope
@BenPopeCST
Blackhawks lines in morning skate vs Wild, with Martinez missing a second consecutive day:

Bertuzzi-Bedard-Teravainen
Hall-Kurashev-Mikheyev
Foligno-Richardinson-Anderson
Maroon-Donato-Smith

Brodie-Jones
Vlasic-Murphy
Allan-Phillips

Mrazek in starter’s crease

- LAHawk


The guys I'm most interested to watch...
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Today @ 12:47 PM ET
No debate about this. The next 4 or 5 years will show if the level of coordination and development throughout the Hawks system is Stanley Cup level.
- stevefrmglencoe


That's worked out well for Detroit...
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Today @ 12:49 PM ET
Ben Pope
@BenPopeCST
Blackhawks lines in morning skate vs Wild, with Martinez missing a second consecutive day:

Bertuzzi-Bedard-Teravainen
Hall-Kurashev-Mikheyev
Foligno-Richardinson-Anderson
Maroon-Donato-Smith

Brodie-Jones
Vlasic-Murphy
Allan-Phillips

Mrazek in starter’s crease

- LAHawk


This lineup screams the rebuild is in its infant stages. Kurashev is going into his 5th season. Don't consider him a prospect or developmental player. So, you have Bedard as the only young forward.

On the back end you have Vlasic and Allan. I don't think Phillips earned a spot. He is on the big club because the Hawks either keep him or lose him to waivers. If you include him you have 4 guys on the roster the Hawks are trying to develop.

Not sure why we don't have 2 forwards in the bottom 6 that are young and developing. We have more than enough veterans on the team now.

07/08 Hawks had Kane, Toews, Keith, Seabs, Buff, Barker, and Bolland all 23 or younger on the roster playing regularly.

A long way to go here.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Today @ 12:51 PM ET
Ben Pope
@BenPopeCST
Blackhawks lines in morning skate vs Wild, with Martinez missing a second consecutive day:

Bertuzzi-Bedard-Teravainen
Hall-Kurashev-Mikheyev
Foligno-Richardinson-Anderson
Maroon-Donato-Smith

Brodie-Jones
Vlasic-Murphy
Allan-Phillips

Mrazek in starter’s crease

- LAHawk

I wouldn't call this a "speed" team. Kind of a tweener. They could be playing chase again. Where's Handzus when you need him?
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Today @ 12:54 PM ET
Yeah, I think LR will have a much bigger spotlight on his results this year. The local media tends to realize the situation and will give a bit more rope than most others.

I go back and forth on agreeing with the long game or shortening the runway to take advantage of the cheap contracts. The more I think about it, I want them to speed it up a bit which is why I'm happy they brough in the vets.

I like the AHL route for a lot of these kids (sorry Fattybeef) as they can work on a lot of stuff without as much pressure. I think if Arty was healthy the entire time, he would have had a good shot of at least starting the year with the big club.

The "wait and see" portion of the rebuild is frustrating as hell.

- Chunk


That's fine. Different strokes. It's true that high level talent takes their lumps in the NHL and turns out fine in 2 years. It's also true that some players need a bit longer to grow into their bodies, mature as an individual and all that good poop.

When I played high level the sports and even in my career, I got thrown into the fire and had to succeed or fail. I think that builds character, resilience and in the long run is better than having an "easier" path with constant handholding.

Rockford hasn't really helped Reichel, for example. If they let him eat it in the NHL maybe he builds some character or fails miserably and doesn't get a second contract.

I agree that Luke will be under more of a microscope this year. That being said, the roster is still rubbish aside from the top line that only has two first line calibre players and TT is more of a tweener.

I don't think they should be wasting productive Bedard years.

I think an interesting bet would be which team fires a coach first - the Bears or the Hawks.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Today @ 12:55 PM ET
That's worked out well for Detroit...
- fattybeef


Not the same they just recently have drafted more than one 1st round pick in 2 out of the last 4 years, before then pretty bleak.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Today @ 12:58 PM ET
That's fine. Different strokes. It's true that high level talent takes their lumps in the NHL and turns out fine in 2 years. It's also true that some players need a bit longer to grow into their bodies, mature as an individual and all that good poop.

When I played high level the sports and even in my career, I got thrown into the fire and had to succeed or fail. I think that builds character, resilience and in the long run is better than having an "easier" path with constant handholding.

Rockford hasn't really helped Reichel, for example. If they let him eat it in the NHL maybe he builds some character or fails miserably and doesn't get a second contract.

I agree that Luke will be under more of a microscope this year. That being said, the roster is still rubbish aside from the top line that only has two first line calibre players and TT is more of a tweener.

I don't think they should be wasting productive Bedard years.

I think an interesting bet would be which team fires a coach first - the Bears or the Hawks.

- fattybeef


Let’s be honest… nothing has helped Reichel. He was given extended time in the NHL and poop the bed, but he played well in not Rockford and for Germany. I think sometimes a guy just can’t cut it.

Edit: that is an interesting bet. I’d die laughing if the Hawks fired LR and hired Q again.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Today @ 1:07 PM ET
That's fine. Different strokes. It's true that high level talent takes their lumps in the NHL and turns out fine in 2 years. It's also true that some players need a bit longer to grow into their bodies, mature as an individual and all that good poop.

When I played high level the sports and even in my career, I got thrown into the fire and had to succeed or fail. I think that builds character, resilience and in the long run is better than having an "easier" path with constant handholding.

Rockford hasn't really helped Reichel, for example. If they let him eat it in the NHL maybe he builds some character or fails miserably and doesn't get a second contract.

I agree that Luke will be under more of a microscope this year. That being said, the roster is still rubbish aside from the top line that only has two first line calibre players and TT is more of a tweener.

I don't think they should be wasting productive Bedard years.

I think an interesting bet would be which team fires a coach first - the Bears or the Hawks.

- fattybeef

Bears.

As far as wasting Bedard years, it is what it is. If you try cobbling a contender together without the pieces already there you get the 2020 Blackhawks. Ideally, we would have drafted Bedard 3-5 years later.
jhawk59
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Today @ 1:07 PM ET
One team seemingly always employing young players and recalling a boatload of prospects, is the favorite in the World Series

Wouldn’t we love to see KD the Los Angeles Dodgers baseball attractive situation this season become the normal for the Blackhawks!

Despite some youngsters not ready for prime time the onset of this season, I would say KD is in the right track. His drafting has been pretty good

But my gosh talk about taking the best player available in Tge Entry Draft ‘25 and ‘26 - we desperately need a top line point priducing forward. The Chicago Bulls basketball once upon a time used to tout Superman and Batman

Oh to draft a forward to play with Bedard….the Batman in the duo

I like our draft choices under KD so far and this is a critical year for many of them to continue development

I do know that wiz has mentioned a better draft for goaltenders is coming. I do not believe KD would draft a netminder in round one but he might grab another dman if he isn’t convinced the current dmen NHL and through farm system is not going to become top notch

Kind of early to project ‘25 draft but I am wondering if KD might not take a forward
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Today @ 1:17 PM ET
Let’s be honest… nothing has helped Reichel. He was given extended time in the NHL and poop the bed, but he played well in not Rockford and for Germany. I think sometimes a guy just can’t cut it.

Edit: that is an interesting bet. I’d die laughing if the Hawks fired LR and hired Q again.

- Chunk

Better chance of Q ending up in St. Louis or Nashville.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Today @ 1:48 PM ET
One team seemingly always employing young players and recalling a boatload of prospects, is the favorite in the World Series

Wouldn’t we love to see KD the Los Angeles Dodgers baseball attractive situation this season become the normal for the Blackhawks!

Despite some youngsters not ready for prime time the onset of this season, I would say KD is in the right track. His drafting has been pretty good

But my gosh talk about taking the best player available in Tge Entry Draft ‘25 and ‘26 - we desperately need a top line point priducing forward. The Chicago Bulls basketball once upon a time used to tout Superman and Batman

Oh to draft a forward to play with Bedard….the Batman in the duo

I like our draft choices under KD so far and this is a critical year for many of them to continue development

I do know that wiz has mentioned a better draft for goaltenders is coming. I do not believe KD would draft a netminder in round one but he might grab another dman if he isn’t convinced the current dmen NHL and through farm system is not going to become top notch

Kind of early to project ‘25 draft but I am wondering if KD might not take a forward

- jhawk59


They will take a goalie early - most are averaged sized or under sized save two on from the Dub, and one in Switzerland...

They wuill take the best forwatd if the pick top 9.

My big sleeper is 2nd gen RD defenseman Fiddler whom I told you all caught my eye a yeear ago...
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Today @ 1:56 PM ET
One team seemingly always employing young players and recalling a boatload of prospects, is the favorite in the World Series

Wouldn’t we love to see KD the Los Angeles Dodgers baseball attractive situation this season become the normal for the Blackhawks!

Despite some youngsters not ready for prime time the onset of this season, I would say KD is in the right track. His drafting has been pretty good

But my gosh talk about taking the best player available in Tge Entry Draft ‘25 and ‘26 - we desperately need a top line point priducing forward. The Chicago Bulls basketball once upon a time used to tout Superman and Batman

Oh to draft a forward to play with Bedard….the Batman in the duo

I like our draft choices under KD so far and this is a critical year for many of them to continue development

I do know that wiz has mentioned a better draft for goaltenders is coming. I do not believe KD would draft a netminder in round one but he might grab another dman if he isn’t convinced the current dmen NHL and through farm system is not going to become top notch

Kind of early to project ‘25 draft but I am wondering if KD might not take a forward

- jhawk59


There also is the option of signing a second scorer to go along with Bedard. We don't really know what the Hawks have in the pipeline right now. There are plenty of scouting reports out there, but guys like Lardis, Kantserov, Vanaker, Boivert could all prove to be good to great scorers.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Today @ 2:20 PM ET
First regular season game underway in Czechia. NJ leads Buffalo 3-0 in the 2nd.

Jeremy Colliton is now assisting head coach Sheldon Keefe behind the bench for the Devils.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Today @ 3:24 PM ET
Boqvist got his bell rung numerous times before getting to the NHL. He also never played a full season at any level. The biggest detriment to him has been his ability to stay healthy and also that his straight line speed is not especially impressive. He's also not very good at defending.

Handling the puck, passing, moving laterally - all very good.

Hopefully he can stay healthy in Florida and realize some of his potential.

But HEALTH not necessarily readiness has been the main retarder in the NHL and a problem his whole career.

Theoretically he should be able to replace a lot of what OEL did if he can stay healthy.

- fattybeef


Man, Boqvist was so out of his element as a rookie, one who was waaay overdrafted despite some evaluators liking him...... I'll say this, the last couple times I saw him he had an NHL element to him and he's no longer a boy. Kinda thick and with his 1st step off the blueline he was beating the winger wide, looked weak side and if nothing there he'd let that good shot of his rip. Kid has a heavy shot.

But, he still hurts his club all over the ice. If any franchise/roster can get anything outa him it just might be FLA.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Today @ 3:27 PM ET
Man, Boqvist was so out of his element as a rookie, one who was waaay overdrafted despite some evaluators liking him...... I'll say this, the last couple times I saw him he had an NHL element to him and he's no longer a boy. Kinda thick and with his 1st step off the blueline he was beating the winger wide, looked weak side and if nothing there he'd let that good shot of his rip. Kid has a heavy shot.

But, he still hurts his club all over the ice. If any franchise/roster can get anything outa him it just might be FLA.

- Mr Ricochet


As of the last preseason game, Bovquist is on PP1 for the panthers with Barkov/Tkaczuk/Verhaege and Reinhart
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