The idea of the Flyers having more salary to work with, is frightening.
- MJL

You would hope the school of Wharton taught him something

Danny has been able to make the calls as GM for 1.5 seasons.
He has 1 really good draft and 1 draft that is up in the air.

lets give him a chance to shed some of the pieces brought in by fletcher and work with more salary.
- WhiskeyMan

Danny B should have put in the same effort to move Konency as he did with Sanheim one year ago. The Sanheim deal falling through is one thing but there was zero effort to move our most valuable asset in Konency and frankly I’d rather be watching whatever we got in return for TK right now than TK himself.

Danny B should have put in the same effort to move Konency as he did with Sanheim one year ago. The Sanheim deal falling through is one thing but there was zero effort to move our most valuable asset in Konency and frankly I’d rather be watching whatever we got in return for TK right now than TK himself.
- roenick97

yes but I am only discussing players that were brought in by chuck or himself. Not he resigned.

You would hope the school of Wharton taught him something
- WhiskeyMan

In my opinion, there is nothing that I have seen which indicates that Briere is any different

You really think they ever really had a legit chance of winning the Cup during those years of Oilers dynasties, Scotty Bowman, generational goalies, and Mario/Wayne/Nik?

The '97 smackdown was proof of just how lacking their team building philosophy was.
- Tomahawk

well i was at many of those games and yes they were a cup winning caliber team.

Ellis Salary - 6.25 - off the books after 26/27
RR Salary - 5.1 - off the books after 26/27
Hayes Salary - 3.5 - off the books after 25/26
Cams Salary - 2.3 - off the books after 25/26
TDA Salary - 1.6 - off the books after this season

2 players he brought in via trade are gone after this season. Ryjo and Petersen - 7.8
- WhiskeyMan

re-signed - seeler, GH, RP, and TK. Refuses to trade laughton.

In my opinion, there is nothing that I have seen which indicates that Briere is any different
- MJL

You don't think Danny / Jonesy are not any different than Fletcher?

You don't think Danny / Jonesy are not any different than Fletcher?
- 26912 PP

No

You don't think Danny / Jonesy are not any different than Fletcher?
- 26912 PP

might be worse.... we shall see

Danny B should have put in the same effort to move Konency as he did with Sanheim one year ago. The Sanheim deal falling through is one thing but there was zero effort to move our most valuable asset in Konency and frankly I’d rather be watching whatever we got in return for TK right now than TK himself.
- roenick97

You dont think Briere tested the market on TK? Part of the way you determine a players value is at least to dip your toe into the trade pool to gauge league interest. This happens all the time and I'm sure Briere did the same with TK.

You dont think Briere tested the market on TK? Part of the way you determine a players value is at least to dip your toe into the trade pool to gauge league interest. This happens all the time and I'm sure Briere did the same with TK.
- 26912 PP

I disagree. It's all speculation but I don't think the Flyers ever had any intention of trading Konecny and did not test the market. They may have taken calls but they didn't shop him. Their intent was to re-sign him and never wavered.

No
- MJL

You do know they have 6 picks in the top 50 in this coming draft? Do you think there is anyway that would have happened under Fletcher (I know one of of those firsts was kinda from Fletcher...) Still you honestly dont think Briere and Jonesy have pushed a youth movement here and reduced the win now at all costs strategy? Just the Walker trade alone proves this.

might be worse.... we shall see
- hello it's me 2050

This might be the first time you have heard this but maybe you and your buddy here should be motivational speakers. You should give it some thought.

You dont think Briere tested the market on TK? Part of the way you determine a players value is at least to dip your toe into the trade pool to gauge league interest. This happens all the time and I'm sure Briere did the same with TK.
- 26912 PP

like with laughton they set a huge price which was never going to be met. in other word no intent to trade.

This might be the first time you have heard this but maybe you and your buddy here should be motivational speakers. You should give it some thought.
- 26912 PP

good idea

Plus a stride+ in speed.
- bmeltzer

This is true. If Jet ended up in that mold, I would be happy.

You do know they have 6 picks in the top 50 in this coming draft? Do you think there is anyway that would have happened under Fletcher (I know one of of those firsts was kinda from Fletcher...) Still you honestly dont think Briere and Jonesy have pushed a youth movement here and reduced the win now at all costs strategy? Just the Walker trade alone proves this.
- 26912 PP

it proves jack schitt. they wanted walker back.

no they have not pushed a youth movement.

re-signed - seeler, GH, RP, and TK. Refuses to trade laughton.
- hello it's me 2050

Not talking about those. Really taking about players on waivers or IR brought in by Chuck or himself.

Besides with the cap going up, the Seller, GH and Rp deals don't amount to much.

TK got a 3.8 million dollar raise. big deal

At least the west coast trip games start on a weekend and I’ll get to watch some or all of Fridays and Saturdays games.
I wouldn’t say I’m team tank. I want the flyers to play hard and fast but just come up short in most games and earn a top five pick.

like with laughton they set a huge price which was never going to be met. in other word no intent to trade.
- hello it's me 2050

Maybe. If someone can prove to me they turned down a 1st for him I will agree that's malpractice. If they turned down a 3rd then who cares. Not a franchise impacting move...

Ellis Salary - 6.25 - off the books after 26/27
RR Salary - 5.1 - off the books after 26/27
Hayes Salary - 3.5 - off the books after 25/26
Cams Salary - 2.3 - off the books after 25/26
TDA Salary - 1.6 - off the books after this season

2 players he brought in via trade are gone after this season. Ryjo and Petersen - 7.8
- WhiskeyMan

Hayes, CA, and TD are casualties of torts and his pettiness - Cam was cooked at the beginning of the year last season - they could have waived him and ate the salary this year - but no they bought him out carrying an extra year of dead salary. They have no issue burying cp in the minors but not other players?

You do know they have 6 picks in the top 50 in this coming draft? Do you think there is anyway that would have happened under Fletcher (I know one of of those firsts was kinda from Fletcher...) Still you honestly dont think Briere and Jonesy have pushed a youth movement here and reduced the win now at all costs strategy? Just the Walker trade alone proves this.
- 26912 PP

No, they're absolutely still in the win at all costs strategy mode and this will be proven when they have the cap space to make moves. This is just a pause, not a true rebuild. You do realize that until they actually make and use those picks, they're not proven to be committed to that. I think there is a good chance that they trade some of those picks for immediate help. The Flyers are going to see what they have in Michkov and then jump the gun, not remaining patient. Jones has all but confirmed that they're going to have the same approach when the cap clears. The Walker deal did not prove anything. They wanted to re-sign Walker and traded him because they couldn't come to an agreement that both sides liked.

it proves jack schitt. they wanted walker back.

no they have not pushed a youth movement.
- hello it's me 2050

He was a legit top 4 dman on their team and they were in a playoff spot (I think) when they traded him knowing it would hurt their chances. They traded him anyone. If that does not symbolize how this admin is different than maybe there is a spot on the UTAH or Buff bandwagon, cause you are probably not going to be pleased here.

You do know they have 6 picks in the top 50 in this coming draft? Do you think there is anyway that would have happened under Fletcher (I know one of of those firsts was kinda from Fletcher...) Still you honestly dont think Briere and Jonesy have pushed a youth movement here and reduced the win now at all costs strategy? Just the Walker trade alone proves this.
- 26912 PP

So best case scenario they draft 6 middle to bottom 6 players that might make the team in 3-5 years. Or they trade some to try to move up which rarely happens.

Either way, one draft is not going to save this franchise like some people seem to think.


They only traded Walker because he wanted too much money and it was either trade him or lose him for nothing. It proves NOTHING.

Not talking about those. Really taking about players on waivers or IR brought in by Chuck or himself.

Besides with the cap going up, the Seller, GH and Rp deals don't amount to much.

TK got a 3.8 million dollar raise. big deal
- WhiskeyMan

so they cap going up justifies overpaying end of roster players. flawed logic.

would you want to use that increase on top end guys? if going to overpay at least do it with top 6 player's.