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BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Oct 24 @ 2:49 PM ET
https://x.com/CRoumelioti...nuL5Jw94omrBYsP_0zWQ&s=19

Any chance he's telling him he's been traded
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Oct 24 @ 2:49 PM ET
https://x.com/CRoumelioti...nuL5Jw94omrBYsP_0zWQ&s=19

Any chance he's telling him he's been traded
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Oct 24 @ 2:50 PM ET
https://x.com/CRoumelioti...nuL5Jw94omrBYsP_0zWQ&s=19

Any chance he's telling him he's been traded
LFS
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.08.2021

Oct 24 @ 3:05 PM ET
Not sure if you saw or remember 25 games in last yr I had seen enough of Bedard taking 2 minute shifts, skating into 3-4 guys and coughing the puck over and over and over every damn game, flying the zone, playing zero defense I posted the kid is playing like a jrs hockey player.

Tons of posters told me I'm nuts and wrong. You posted something similar and you got no real push back other than some context for his horrid effort and defense......

That says much. People came outa the woodwork to defend him last yr but today nobody does. Why, cuz they've seen him enough to agree to some extent.

Expectations have been readjusted. Bedard is not an 18 yr old Crosby like he was hyped up to be but that does not mean the 19 yr old will not mature into a generational player, a close to generational player, a prolific scorer or just as dangerous an offensive player as there is in the league whose defense is Kane like.

- Mr Ricochet

Ricco, i only stated what i have been seeing for a year and seven games. Thats why I qualified my statement. Based on what was predicted by the experts and what he has shown so far I dont think I was out of line saying what I said. Still hoping for the best for the kid.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Oct 24 @ 3:27 PM ET
Additional info regarding teams looking for a 2C, from NHLRumors.com

The Nashville Predators would like a center, but they aren’t easy to find
Nick Kieser: Nashville Predators GM Barry Trotz on @1025TheGame Tuesday: “I’ve been on the phones. No one is trading anyone right now. I would like to get a center, but no one is giving their centermen away.”

Alex Daugherty: (on the weekend) “Seeing a lot of “Preds need to get a 2C” but not a lot of names. The trade options for NSH are poor. You’re either getting older (ex: Nelson, Strome) or way more expensive. Btw, Zegras is great, but is not a center. Bottom line? NSH needs a 2C to emerge from current roster.”

Alex Daugherty: “This is the reality for 2024-25: one of Novak, Sissons, McCarron, Parssinen, Hinostroza, or Svechkov has to emerge as a true pivot in the top 6 or else Stamkos has to do it.”

- Chunk


This is why I'm glad the Hawks have been drafting a lot of C options into the system. Good centers and defense are the hardest parts to find outside of the draft.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Oct 24 @ 3:57 PM ET
Ok Hawks looking for a 2nd impact line center, so are a lot if teams, imo probably have to wait until I say either Thanksgiving or Christmas see where teams are. The next question would what centers would the Hawks be looking at to acquire and what would be the cost. What names come to mine anybody chime in.
Dieselhead
Location: CA
Joined: 11.01.2011

Oct 24 @ 4:12 PM ET
https://x.com/CRoumeliotis/status/1849480566778810495?t=QznuL5Jw94omrBYsP_0zWQ&s=19

Any chance he's telling him he's been traded

- BetweenTheDots


Probably asking him if he'd feel comfortable playing Center.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Oct 24 @ 4:15 PM ET
Probably asking him if he'd feel comfortable playing Center.
- Dieselhead



Good one
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Oct 24 @ 5:48 PM ET
Probably asking him if he'd feel comfortable playing Center.
- Dieselhead


Hahaha,

Looks like Vlasic is QBing the 1st PP unit? Probably what the convo was about.

I'm also guessing the convo with Reichel was you keep playing the way you are we have 2 players on the 2nd line that don't belong there, it's your job to take.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Oct 24 @ 6:16 PM ET
Probably asking him if he'd feel comfortable playing Center.
- Dieselhead

Lev is going to be our 2C.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Oct 24 @ 6:41 PM ET
Ok Hawks looking for a 2nd impact line center, so are a lot if teams, imo probably have to wait until I say either Thanksgiving or Christmas see where teams are. The next question would what centers would the Hawks be looking at to acquire and what would be the cost. What names come to mine anybody chime in.
- Scott1977


Dawson Mercer


vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Oct 24 @ 6:45 PM ET
Lev is going to be our 2C.
- rpeters01


Did they ever say if he is going to play soon, been out of touch this week.

Was up in Montreal on business. Damn it was warm, like mid 70s both Tue and Wed when i was there.

I know it probably makes me a bad person, but i am a fan of Global Warming...........

Edit; Got to watch those first 4 Rangers goals in a sports bar, i was careful not to laugh too loud
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Oct 24 @ 7:33 PM ET
Dawson Mercer



- DarthKane

I think he is more of a winger Norris if he can stay healthy
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Oct 24 @ 8:03 PM ET
I think he is more of a winger Norris if he can stay healthy
- Scott1977

Maybe Pinto, he would take less assets to acquire than Norris and obviously Norris has issues staying healthy, and he carries more money and term, too risky. Pinto is questionable as a 2C, but not on this current Hawks team, and he could slide back to 3C once Boisvert or someone else is ready.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Oct 24 @ 8:18 PM ET
Maybe Pinto, he would take less assets to acquire than Norris and obviously Norris has issues staying healthy, and he carries more money and term, too risky. Pinto is questionable as a 2C, but not on this current Hawks team, and he could slide back to 3C once Boisvert or someone else is ready.
- Angotti

I m sure Davidson and company will do there due diligence at what's right move is going forward.
Question for wiz would lundell from Florida be a good comparison for Bosevert?
jhawk59
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Oct 24 @ 9:06 PM ET
Maybe Pinto, he would take less assets to acquire than Norris and obviously Norris has issues staying healthy, and he carries more money and term, too risky. Pinto is questionable as a 2C, but not on this current Hawks team, and he could slide back to 3C once Boisvert or someone else is ready.
- Angotti

Teams like to lock their top young players into long term contracts and we have seen a pattern wherein nearly each young player who has demonstrated a bright future in the NHL has been signed early. A couple situation did take a while to settle; for example Ottawa due to a cheap owner and finding room for Nylander big pay in Toronto definitely had the rumor mill going

Honestly though it seems almost inevitable or unlikely a top young center is going to be traded. You can mark this assertion with an asterisk however when a prospect who does not want to play for the team who drafted him (McCroary and the kid Philly traded to Anaheim) gum up the works… .or Zebras situation could lead to player movement.

Counting on landing a top young player any where other than The Entry Draft obviously is not a good strategy and that is after considering the above scenarios. Teams need to draft and develop

KD has drafted a stable worth of good young forwards but how many of them could turn out to be first or second line offensive centers? Let us see how some KD choices progress this season but really could keep fingers crossed a top forward from ‘25 draft even ‘26 too - checks in on our roster for a long long time
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Oct 24 @ 9:31 PM ET
Teams like to lock their top young players into long term contracts and we have seen a pattern wherein nearly each young player who has demonstrated a bright future in the NHL has been signed early. A couple situation did take a while to settle; for example Ottawa due to a cheap owner and finding room for Nylander big pay in Toronto definitely had the rumor mill going

Honestly though it seems almost inevitable or unlikely a top young center is going to be traded. You can mark this assertion with an asterisk however when a prospect who does not want to play for the team who drafted him (McCroary and the kid Phillybtraded to Anaheim) gum up the works… .or Zebras situation could lead to player movement.

Counting on landing a top young player any where other than The Entry Draft obviously is not a good strategy and that is after considering the above scenarios. Teams need to draft and develop

KD has drafted a stable worth of good young forwards but how many of them could turn out to be first or second line offensive centers? Let us see how some KD choices progress this season but really could keep fingers crossed a top forward from ‘25 draft even ‘26 too - checks in on our roster for a long long time

- jhawk59


When there is a will there is a way. Criticize the trades, but Montreal got Dach and Newhook, it did cost them # 1 draft picks. Philadelphia traded Giroux, and got Tippett as part of the package back. St. Louis got Holloway via offer sheet. Colorado traded Byram for Middlestat.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Oct 24 @ 10:27 PM ET
When there is a will there is a way. Criticize the trades, but Montreal got Dach and Newhook, it did cost them # 1 draft picks. Philadelphia traded Giroux, and got Tippett as part of the package back. St. Louis got Holloway via offer sheet. Colorado traded Byram for Middlestat.
- LAHawk


The Blues look like they are better at this than almost every team out there if Broberg and Holloway perform like they are the rest of the year and years after. Unbelievable they could see Broberg worth that contract they paid him. That Blues team will be competing for another Stanley Cup soon
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Oct 24 @ 10:35 PM ET
The Blues look like they are better at this than almost every team out there if Broberg and Holloway perform like they are the rest of the year and years after. Unbelievable they could see Broberg worth that contract they paid him. That Blues team will be competing for another Stanley Cup soon
- BetweenTheDots

They don’t make many mistakes out there, they’re quick and play a structured system. Tonight they took Toronto’s top line behind the shed.
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Oct 24 @ 10:42 PM ET
The Blues look like they are better at this than almost every team out there if Broberg and Holloway perform like they are the rest of the year and years after. Unbelievable they could see Broberg worth that contract they paid him. That Blues team will be competing for another Stanley Cup soon
- BetweenTheDots


We complain about Bickell and TT….. would’ve cleaned house if I was the oilers owner. You can’t let that kind of young talent go for a 2nd and 3rd. At least keep one of them. That Bowman move is worse than any while he was with the Hawks.
jhawk59
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Oct 24 @ 10:53 PM ET
The Blues look like they are better at this than almost every team out there if Broberg and Holloway perform like they are the rest of the year and years after. Unbelievable they could see Broberg worth that contract they paid him. That Blues team will be competing for another Stanley Cup soon
- BetweenTheDots

Bennington = Osgood. You could imagine so. Maybe. First of all Blues have to even make playoffs. So the have drafted a lot of young talent including three first round two drafts back. They have to develop the kids and there is lack of quality low pairs/defense pairs with old guy Leddy inclusive. There is some good young forwards but it is a stretch this forwards and dmen becomes elite.

Perhaps if enough young talent comes along then the Blues have a deep group. Yet I cannot foresee more than trending in the right direction.

And remember there are teams with more stars and a blended group of talent much farther advanced and battle proven….Colorado, Dallas, Minnesota intra division plus Conference teams out west. St Louis might aim to be the next Vancouver or Seattle to rise up. When healthy Utah is a fast rising team
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Oct 24 @ 10:57 PM ET
Teams like to lock their top young players into long term contracts and we have seen a pattern wherein nearly each young player who has demonstrated a bright future in the NHL has been signed early. A couple situation did take a while to settle; for example Ottawa due to a cheap owner and finding room for Nylander big pay in Toronto definitely had the rumor mill going

Honestly though it seems almost inevitable or unlikely a top young center is going to be traded. You can mark this assertion with an asterisk however when a prospect who does not want to play for the team who drafted him (McCroary and the kid Philly traded to Anaheim) gum up the works… .or Zebras situation could lead to player movement.

Counting on landing a top young player any where other than The Entry Draft obviously is not a good strategy and that is after considering the above scenarios. Teams need to draft and develop

KD has drafted a stable worth of good young forwards but how many of them could turn out to be first or second line offensive centers? Let us see how some KD choices progress this season but really could keep fingers crossed a top forward from ‘25 draft even ‘26 too - checks in on our roster for a long long time

- jhawk59


unless you're Vegas or Florida
jhawk59
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Oct 24 @ 11:04 PM ET
unless you're Vegas or Florida
- fattybeef

Yeah good point. They represent the exceotion

Talk about good fortune and timing: What a huge gain Forsling has been. Wiz liked him in Chicago saw the ability to play at speed but he needed time and experience. Remember both Queeeneville and Bowman liked his ability
totem
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Seattle, WA
Joined: 06.14.2017

Oct 24 @ 11:09 PM ET
Caught some of Erie vs. Barrie OHL game tonight. Good game, Erie won 2-1.

Matthew Schaefer had a nice goal shooting through traffic, and showed his speed, stick handling and mobility all night. Can see why he is ranked top 5 for the 2024 draft. He had 5 shots on the night.

Malcolm Spence had the other Erie goal, receiving a nice pass and scoring on a 2-on-1. He was very active, drove the net, and had some nice plays on the forecheck. Had a nice steal on the backcheck also. Could see his talent and looked like a top 10 for the 2025 draft.

Martin Misiak looked to me like he was fitting right in with the talented Erie team. He was always around the puck and seemed to be able to do well on retrieval. Cleared it out of the d zone several times in the 3rd as the team protected the one goal lead. Passing was good. He should benefit from playing another OHL year; seems like going back was the right thing. Should be ready for Rockford next year.

Ty Henry played a lot, including on special teams. Again very active and around the play all the time. Was roaming a little bit. He will need the two more years in Erie and maybe a couple more in the AHL, but has some potential. Left the game in the first, it looked like he got a slash on the hand, but he returned later. Blackhawks could have a bargain with him.

Did not watch the Barrie players very much. but Kashawn Aitcheson (Wiz #30 2025) had 6 SOG for the night.

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Don't know if it has been mentioned, but the Central Scouting preliminary watch list is out.

https://www.nhl.com/news/...ary-players-to-watch-list




SaskHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: SK
Joined: 05.18.2014

Oct 24 @ 11:26 PM ET
Hahaha,

Looks like Vlasic is QBing the 1st PP unit? Probably what the convo was about.

I'm also guessing the convo with Reichel was you keep playing the way you are we have 2 players on the 2nd line that don't belong there, it's your job to take.

- BetweenTheDots



Totally agree. I think Reichel has looked good. It would be a huge bonus if he takes that next step.
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