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dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Oct 25 @ 1:44 PM ET
44 made a comment the other day that he’s now playing for his 5th coach…

That’s pretty crazy when you think that none of the core players have changed over those five coaches…
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Oct 25 @ 1:45 PM ET
44 made a comment the other day that he’s now playing for his 5th coach…

That’s pretty crazy when you think that none of the core players have changed over those five coaches…

- dozerD10

Yup.
We're stuck with Matthews and willie....the only real change now would be to move out marner.
If things go south again
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Oct 25 @ 1:47 PM ET
Over 8 games. 22nd last year?
- joel878

So it's an improvement so far.
We'll know more after 25 games or so if it can be sustained.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 25 @ 1:53 PM ET
44 made a comment the other day that he’s now playing for his 5th coach…

That’s pretty crazy when you think that none of the core players have changed over those five coaches…

- dozerD10


Marner and Matthews have only played for 3 and I think Nylander got under Horachek as his 4th.

Rielly has been around for 12 years now, not 10 or less. (Includes the current season)

Keep in mind coach number 3 (or 4) has only been for 8 games and Nylander’s coach No.1 was only for 22 games. So it’s really not that crazy. Add the three up and other than 46 games (all 3 added together) the 3 of them have only played for 2
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Oct 25 @ 2:03 PM ET
Well, there's always next year.
- Zezel

Wait for McDavid 👍
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

Oct 25 @ 2:11 PM ET
Its not novelty, its because its not working.
Send marner or willie to the 2nd line with JT.
It doesn't kick any can if they figure it out sooner than later.
Youre assuming the pp can only work one way with certain players.

- Fakepartofme


Agree - to try to change something because it isn't working and hasn't been for quite some time is a good practice and not novelty.

Too much talent on this team to have a PP that is this bad, it's not like the guys who are not on the PP1 are all scrubs that can't score & have zero talent.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Oct 25 @ 2:14 PM ET
Marner and Matthews have only played for 3 and I think Nylander got under Horachek as his 4th.

Rielly has been around for 12 years now, not 10 or less. (Includes the current season)

Keep in mind coach number 3 (or 4) has only been for 8 games and Nylander’s coach No.1 was only for 22 games. So it’s really not that crazy. Add the three up and other than 46 games (all 3 added together) the 3 of them have only played for 2

- Dozzer


I get your point,

but when you have elite 91, 16, 88 & a top 5 player league wide, 34 should you be going through even 3 coaches ??? Nevermind 44 playing for 5 -

Seems as though perhaps, another approach may be warranted -
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Oct 25 @ 2:16 PM ET
Agree - to try to change something because it isn't working and hasn't been for quite some time is a good practice and not novelty.

Too much talent on this team to have a PP that is this bad, it's not like the guys who are not on the PP1 are all scrubs that can't score & have zero talent.

- Cush29


Without running the numbers I'm thinking it's the highest paid PP unit in the league and has been for years now.

Anything short of top 3 is unacceptable and most of us would settle for top 5.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Oct 25 @ 2:51 PM ET
pretty stoked for tonight

got 2 lbs of mussels, a bottle of chardonnay, and the wife's going out for halloween shenanigans
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Oct 25 @ 2:51 PM ET
44 made a comment the other day that he’s now playing for his 5th coach…

That’s pretty crazy when you think that none of the core players have changed over those five coaches…

- dozerD10


Is that actually unusual?
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Oct 25 @ 2:52 PM ET
pretty stoked for tonight

got 2 lbs of mussels, a bottle of chardonnay, and the wife's going out for halloween shenanigans

- TheMussel


I can give you 230 pounds of muscle and all the tricks and treats you need.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Oct 25 @ 2:54 PM ET
I can give you 230 pounds of muscle and all the tricks and treats you need.
- Zezel

And some other seafood

🦀
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Oct 25 @ 2:56 PM ET
I can give you 230 pounds of muscle and all the tricks and treats you need.
- Zezel

it ain't the same without a bit of cream
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 25 @ 2:59 PM ET
I get your point,

but when you have elite 91, 16, 88 & a top 5 player league wide, 34 should you be going through even 3 coaches ??? Nevermind 44 playing for 5 -

Seems as though perhaps, another approach may be warranted -

- dozerD10


He’s in year 9

Average coach duration: 2 years

He technically (average wise) should be on his 5th coach not his 3rd
monkman1967
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AB
Joined: 01.12.2011

Oct 25 @ 3:02 PM ET
So who thought Babcock 2 was a good idea. One good game the rest that sucked
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Oct 25 @ 3:12 PM ET
He’s in year 9

Average coach duration: 2 years

He technically (average wise) should be on his 5th coach not his 3rd

- Dozzer


Two years 😳😳😳is that really the average coach duration 🧐🧐🧐that’s insane…wow -

Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 25 @ 3:13 PM ET
Two years 😳😳😳is that really the average coach duration 🧐🧐🧐that’s insane…wow -
- dozerD10


Aside from a few exceptions, it's insane how quickly teams will change coaches when things go bad.
jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Oct 25 @ 3:23 PM ET
Aside from a few exceptions, it's insane how quickly teams will change coaches when things go bad.
- Scabeh


Scabeh lots of restaurants near Sheraton downtown Montreal. Abby suggestions walking distance ?
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Oct 25 @ 3:25 PM ET
pretty stoked for tonight

got 2 lbs of mussels, a bottle of chardonnay, and the wife's going out for halloween shenanigans

- TheMussel

Noice.
What kind of sauce for the mussels?....or that what the white wine is for....a white wine creamy garlic sauce?
I also enjoy making a red wine diavolo sauce
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Oct 25 @ 3:28 PM ET
Without running the numbers I'm thinking it's the highest paid PP unit in the league and has been for years now.

Anything short of top 3 is unacceptable and most of us would settle for top 5.

- joel878

I gotta agree.
Doesnt always work that way.....or in the leafs case almost never works that way. But with the talent they have, they should be tops in the league.
Problem is their PP is so predictable, pass around the perimeter and look for Matthews.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 25 @ 3:30 PM ET
a few teams passed on Michkov that probably shouldn't have
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 25 @ 3:41 PM ET
Scabeh lots of restaurants near Sheraton downtown Montreal. Abby suggestions walking distance ?
- jribout


What do you feel like eating/ what kind of places are you looking for?



Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 25 @ 3:43 PM ET
a few teams passed on Michkov that probably shouldn't have
- senstroll


While he was my pick at the time for Montreal at #5 and I'm sure Michkov will become a star player down the line, it's probably too early to tell who was the right pick.

Will Smith at #4 is having trouble in his early NHL days, Reinbacher is injured, #6 Simashev is still in the KHL....

Feels like the top 3 were the best possible choices so far.
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Oct 25 @ 3:51 PM ET
I gotta agree.
Doesnt always work that way.....or in the leafs case almost never works that way. But with the talent they have, they should be tops in the league.
Problem is their PP is so predictable, pass around the perimeter and look for Matthews.

- Fakepartofme

Agreed. This is not on Marc Savard, unless he sticks with throwing out the same 5 players. Their pooptiness predates him. The players have to change. The mix doesn't work. It's year after year after year.
viperxt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: windsor, ON
Joined: 08.07.2011

Oct 25 @ 3:59 PM ET
Berube probably said something to hurt their feelings after the game against Columbus...lol
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