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kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Oct 27 @ 12:34 PM ET
Patrick better go to the Owners and tell them it's him or me. No reason Patrick has to play Lou's mistakes. Barry had the same issues with no say on the roster. This is going to turn into the Neil Smith Patty L mess.
- ses111


Certainly looks that way. We fans can’t catch a break lol
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 27 @ 12:42 PM ET
Certainly looks that way. We fans can’t catch a break lol
- kindlyrick


You think it's hard to sign UFA's now? Just wait to see how much harder if Patrick leaves. This will severely hurt the rep of this team even more. I can see someone like Barzal asking out. The owners have to fire Lou today.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 27 @ 12:48 PM ET
NHL_Rumor24/7

Hearing Patrick Roy and Lou Lamoriello had a major verbal fight before tonights game vs FLA about certain recent transactions and Lou is forcing Roy to play players he doesn’t want in his lineup. Major tension between coach and GM I’ve heard there’s a good chance Roy will resign.

Not sure about the authenticity but it kinda makes sense

- kindlyrick

Yeah saw that as well. Makes sense with what Roy said to the press about Lou deciding it was time to play Engvall. Could be BS based solely on that quote as well who knows but it’s believable at the very least. Engvall was… well let’s just say he looked like Engvall last night. 😆
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 27 @ 12:52 PM ET
Yeah saw that as well. Makes sense with what Roy said to the press about Lou deciding it was time to play Engvall. Could be BS based solely on that quote as well who knows but it’s believable at the very least. Engvall was… well let’s just say he looked like Engvall last night. 😆
- Cptmjl


Seems very believable. So much for accountability and the best players playing.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Oct 27 @ 12:57 PM ET
Yeah saw that as well. Makes sense with what Roy said to the press about Lou deciding it was time to play Engvall. Could be BS based solely on that quote as well who knows but it’s believable at the very least. Engvall was… well let’s just say he looked like Engvall last night. 😆
- Cptmjl


Lou gave the guy a 7 year contract. Of course he wants Engvall to play. I don't know if it's an ego thing or if Lou really believes in him. Either way he will push to keep him playing.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 27 @ 1:00 PM ET
Lou gave the guy a 7 year contract. Of course he wants Engvall to play. I don't know if it's an ego thing or if Lou really believes in him. Either way he will push to keep him playing.
- JimmyP


It's an ego thing. It makes Lou look bad with Pierre in Bridge. Lou does not admit mistakes. It's never his fault or his players fault, but the coaches fault.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Oct 27 @ 1:01 PM ET
Patrick better go to the Owners and tell them it's him or me. No reason Patrick has to play Lou's mistakes. Barry had the same issues with no say on the roster. This is going to turn into the Neil Smith Patty L mess.
- ses111


I don't think Roy has that kind of leverage. It's not like he's Scotty Bowman.

However I do understand the frustrations. I would respect the hell out of Roy if he were to walk away on principal.

ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 27 @ 1:08 PM ET
I don't think Roy has that kind of leverage. It's not like he's Scotty Bowman.

However I do understand the frustrations. I would respect the hell out of Roy if he were to walk away on principal.

- JimmyP


Roy may not have the leverage, but I’m picking Patrick over Lou at this point. The owners need to do the same thing. Fans will not be unhappy with Lou gone and the fans might respect the move. It’s going to be very embarrassing having to explain another coach having to be replaced and Lou getting to hire another coach.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Oct 27 @ 1:56 PM ET
Roy may not have the leverage, but I’m picking Patrick over Lou at this point. The owners need to do the same thing. Fans will not be unhappy with Lou gone and the fans might respect the move. It’s going to be very embarrassing having to explain another coach having to be replaced and Lou getting to hire another coach.
- ses111


If the isles keep blowing leads which is highly probable something has to give and I don’t think it’s Roy who gets red slipped.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Oct 27 @ 1:59 PM ET
Yeah saw that as well. Makes sense with what Roy said to the press about Lou deciding it was time to play Engvall. Could be BS based solely on that quote as well who knows but it’s believable at the very least. Engvall was… well let’s just say he looked like Engvall last night. 😆
- Cptmjl


I think Roy’s comment said it all. He threw Lou right under that bus. The fact that we’re seeing last years roster (almost identical) and still blowing leads is extremely frustrating as a fan.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 27 @ 2:11 PM ET
I don't think Roy has that kind of leverage. It's not like he's Scotty Bowman.

However I do understand the frustrations. I would respect the hell out of Roy if he were to walk away on principal.

- JimmyP

I’ll say it again Lou will leave how he wants too from this organization when the time comes. The owners will live and die with the guy. Hope to be wrong about that but don’t think I am. I highly doubt Roy has the juice to do anything or influence anything nor should he imo. Let’s not forget this is exactly what happened(if this is what’s actually happening and not BS) with Roy in Colorado.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 27 @ 2:16 PM ET
I think Roy’s comment said it all. He threw Lou right under that bus. The fact that we’re seeing last years roster (almost identical) and still blowing leads is extremely frustrating as a fan.
- kindlyrick

This roster has been stale for years.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Oct 27 @ 2:17 PM ET
I’ll say it again Lou will leave how he wants too from this organization when the time comes. The owners will live and die with the guy. Hope to be wrong about that but don’t think I am. I highly doubt Roy has the juice to do anything or influence anything nor should he imo. Let’s not forget this is exactly what happened(if this is what’s actually happening and not BS) with Roy in Colorado.
- Cptmjl


Sports are a results business and Lou has had ample time to build a cup contender. Yet, here we are, still a bubble team blowing leads. Pretty accurate result being that we’re watching last years team again.

I don’t think Roy has any say regarding the GM but when you’re publicly outing your GMs roster decision that’s not gonna end well. At what point does the ownership admit the problem and make a change? I guess the answer is when fans stop buying tickets which is starting to happen.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 27 @ 2:50 PM ET
I’ll say it again Lou will leave how he wants too from this organization when the time comes. The owners will live and die with the guy. Hope to be wrong about that but don’t think I am. I highly doubt Roy has the juice to do anything or influence anything nor should he imo. Let’s not forget this is exactly what happened(if this is what’s actually happening and not BS) with Roy in Colorado.
- Cptmjl


I’m not sure what happened with Roy and the Avs. Maybe Roy was wrong. It’s also wrong for Lou to make his coaches take the heat for a lousy roster and Lou keeps the job and takes no blame.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Oct 27 @ 3:00 PM ET
I’m not sure what happened with Roy and the Avs. Maybe Roy was wrong. It’s also wrong for Lou to make his coaches take the heat for a lousy roster and Lou keeps the job and takes no blame.
- ses111



I don’t think Lou outruns this one. I think his days are numbered.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 27 @ 3:03 PM ET
I don’t think Lou outruns this one. I think his days are numbered.
- kindlyrick


Bill Torrey did not get to pick his exit and he won 4 Cups with the Islanders. Why should Lou get to decide with 0 Islander Cups. Lou picked Lane and it did not work out and now Patrick is not working out.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Oct 27 @ 3:08 PM ET
Bill Torrey did not get to pick his exit and he won 4 Cups with the Islanders. Why should Lou get to decide with 0 Islander Cups. Lou picked Lane and it did not work out and now Patrick is not working out.

- ses111


He’s 81….his days are numbered whether they win or lose. I don’t think he’s going to decide when. If the blown leads continue, I think he gets the ax before xmas
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 27 @ 3:10 PM ET
He’s 81….his days are numbered whether they win or lose. I don’t think he’s going to decide when. If the blown leads continue, I think he gets the ax before xmas
- kindlyrick


Maybe if Lou shows up to an interview in beachwear, there will be hope the owners do the right thing.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Oct 27 @ 3:25 PM ET
Maybe if Lou shows up to an interview in beachwear, there will be hope the owners do the right thing.
- ses111



Hah unforgettable!
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 27 @ 4:11 PM ET
Maybe if Lou shows up to an interview in beachwear, there will be hope the owners do the right thing.
- ses111

This team has a hard time saying goodbye to GM’s. You’d figure it would be a hot destination for them.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 27 @ 4:15 PM ET
Hah unforgettable!
- kindlyrick



𝐈𝐬𝐥𝐞𝐬 𝐅𝐢𝐱
@IslesFix
The way Roy responded to the question on the new additions was interesting.
"I think Lou thinks it's [the physicality] important for us," he said about Martin, and "I guess Lou thought it was a good moment for him" about Engvall #Isles
10:53 PM · Oct 26, 2024
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This right here and the fact that Roy and or Lou broke NHL protocol by not making the coach available to the media pre game makes me think this thing has some legs. Like I said earlier grab some popcorn. 😆
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Oct 27 @ 4:35 PM ET
𝐈𝐬𝐥𝐞𝐬 𝐅𝐢𝐱
@IslesFix
The way Roy responded to the question on the new additions was interesting.
"I think Lou thinks it's

- Cptmjl[the physicality] important for us," he said about Martin,
and "I guess Lou thought it was a good moment for him" about Engvall #Isles
10:53 PM · Oct 26, 2024
·
23.6K
Views

This right here and the fact that Roy and or Lou broke NHL protocol by not making the coach available to the media pre game makes me think this thing has some legs. Like I said earlier grab some popcorn. 😆


I don't see how Roy has any power here. I get where he's coming from and I don't blame him. It looks like there are two outcomes for him. Either he gets Lou to fire him and he gets paid, or L&M take notice and fire Lou. My money is on the former.

Still, I agree with Roy. If I'm the coach, I should be able to pick the players I want playing. If you don't trust me or you don't agree with my vision then let me go and hire a coach that agrees with you.

ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 27 @ 4:44 PM ET
I don't see how Roy has any power here. I get where he's coming from and I don't blame him. It looks like there are two outcomes for him. Either he gets Lou to fire him and he gets paid, or L&M take notice and fire Lou. My money is on the former.

Still, I agree with Roy. If I'm the coach, I should be able to pick the players I want playing. If you don't trust me or you don't agree with my vision then let me go and hire a coach that agrees with you.

- JimmyP


I agree with Roy. Let Lou coach Pierre and these other players if Lou thinks they are good enough. Lou has not shown he can be trusted to build a roster. The NJ days are a long way off.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Oct 27 @ 4:49 PM ET
𝐈𝐬𝐥𝐞𝐬 𝐅𝐢𝐱
@IslesFix
The way Roy responded to the question on the new additions was interesting.
"I think Lou thinks it's

- Cptmjl[the physicality] important for us," he said about Martin,
and "I guess Lou thought it was a good moment for him" about Engvall #Isles
10:53 PM · Oct 26, 2024
·
23.6K
Views

This right here and the fact that Roy and or Lou broke NHL protocol by not making the coach available to the media pre game makes me think this thing has some legs. Like I said earlier grab some popcorn. 😆


Yeah there’s definitely something to this. You don’t mention Lou unless you’re trying to take blame away from yourself.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 27 @ 4:51 PM ET
I don't see how Roy has any power here. I get where he's coming from and I don't blame him. It looks like there are two outcomes for him. Either he gets Lou to fire him and he gets paid, or L&M take notice and fire Lou. My money is on the former.

Still, I agree with Roy. If I'm the coach, I should be able to pick the players I want playing. If you don't trust me or you don't agree with my vision then let me go and hire a coach that agrees with you.

- JimmyP

I don’t think Roy has any power I’m just starting to believe these rumors. Pretty obvious he’s not happy about Martin being resigned and Engvall getting called up. Don’t blame him they are both boneheaded moves. Martin is toast and Engvall is (frank)ing terrible.
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