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ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 28 @ 12:50 PM ET
Ek has the Islanders looking for a top 4 man.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 28 @ 12:52 PM ET
Maybe it's a little early, but these moves are a concern. What happened to Lou's comments about working with Patrick and Patrick having a say?
- ses111

Oh there’s definitely something going on. Roy’s comments are there for everyone to see. Pretty evident. Only question is what comes of it.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 28 @ 1:13 PM ET
Oh there’s definitely something going on. Roy’s comments are there for everyone to see. Pretty evident. Only question is what comes of it.
- Cptmjl


Islanders better hope Patrick does not quit. Going to be tough to spin things.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Oct 28 @ 1:19 PM ET
Ek has the Islanders looking for a top 4 man.
- ses111


They shoulda just signed Shattenkirk for league min for a one year
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 28 @ 1:20 PM ET
They shoulda just signed Shattenkirk for league min for a one year
- kindlyrick


It's a concern if the Islanders are looking for a top 4 dman. Thought the top 4 should be pretty set?
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Oct 28 @ 1:24 PM ET
It's a concern if the Islanders are looking for a top 4 dman. Thought the top 4 should be pretty set?
- ses111


I guess it depends who you ask, but from my perspective you fielded the same team as last year pretty much.

Pretty telling how they went all last year with that left side being so weak. So much so they brought in 2 new LW for the top 6. Obviously Duclair got hurt, but is Holmstrom really the best option for 1LW? I’d also add Martin and Engvall to that. We all thought the team turned the corner. I guess not
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 28 @ 1:26 PM ET
I guess it depends who you ask, but from my perspective you fielded the same team as last year pretty much.

Pretty telling how they went all last year with that left side being so weak. So much so they brought in 2 new LW for the top 6. Obviously Duclair got hurt, but is Holmstrom really the best option for 1LW? I’d also add Martin and Engvall to that. We all thought the team turned the corner. I guess not

- kindlyrick

Did we? 😆
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Oct 28 @ 1:28 PM ET
Did we? 😆
- Cptmjl


Meaning finally letting go of Martin and Clutterbuck, throwing Engvall in bport, and taking Wahlstrom out of the top 6. To me at least it looked like they were making strides towards change.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 28 @ 1:31 PM ET
Meaning finally letting go of Martin and Clutterbuck, throwing Engvall in bport, and taking Wahlstrom out of the top 6. To me at least it looked like they were making strides towards change.
- kindlyrick


Patrick probably thought the same.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Oct 28 @ 1:32 PM ET
Patrick probably thought the same.
- ses111



Well like Cpt said, and I agree, something isn’t right. He clearly threw Lou under the bus imo

Edit : Roy says they speak every day and Lou has the upstairs decisions while Roy has the bench decisions. They aren’t happy with the 11th and 12th spots which is 4th line. Wahlstrom has no spot on this team.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 28 @ 1:36 PM ET
Well like Cpt said, and I agree, something isn’t right. He clearly threw Lou under the bus imo
- kindlyrick



Lou wants to make all these calls; he gets thrown under the bus. Patrick is not Cappy.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 28 @ 1:38 PM ET
Meaning finally letting go of Martin and Clutterbuck, throwing Engvall in bport, and taking Wahlstrom out of the top 6. To me at least it looked like they were making strides towards change.
- kindlyrick

To me they had to let those guys go but I guess I was wrong. Haha


For me there’s only one thing for this team to do and there’s no way around it. Until they do that it’s all just wasting time and assets making the inevitable harder.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Oct 28 @ 1:42 PM ET
To me they had to let those guys go but I guess I was wrong. Haha


For me there’s only one thing for this team to do and there’s no way around it. Until they do that it’s all just wasting time and assets making the inevitable harder.

- Cptmjl


Agreed. Sadly
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 28 @ 1:45 PM ET
https://thehockeynews.com...vall-matt-martin-call-ups

On one hand, this clears the air. On the other, feels kinda like they're just trying to paper over whatever issue may be there.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Oct 28 @ 1:49 PM ET
https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/new-york-islanders/latest-news/new-york-islanders-patrick-roy-lou-lamoriello-rumors-pierre-engvall-matt-martin-call-ups

On one hand, this clears the air. On the other, feels kinda like they're just trying to paper over whatever issue may be there.

- eichiefs9


Roy had a temper as a player and then as a coach. He’s hot headed. I’m sure cooler heads prevailed and he’s playing damage control. He literally said “Lou thinks”. I’m not gonna try and dissect this, but to me, Roy showed his hand and slipped up a bit.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 28 @ 1:55 PM ET
https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/new-york-islanders/latest-news/new-york-islanders-patrick-roy-lou-lamoriello-rumors-pierre-engvall-matt-martin-call-ups

On one hand, this clears the air. On the other, feels kinda like they're just trying to paper over whatever issue may be there.

- eichiefs9

Like I said earlier there’s something there. He can try and gloss it over and blame people for misinterpreting his words. They were still his words and barring some mental handicap and not realizing how his words may look to the public he was well aware of what he was saying and how it would be read.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 28 @ 2:17 PM ET
Like I said earlier there’s something there. He can try and gloss it over and blame people for misinterpreting his words. They were still his words and barring some mental handicap and not realizing how his words may look to the public he was well aware of what he was saying and how it would be read.
- Cptmjl


Lou and Patrick pretty much need each other. Lou cannot replace another coach, and Patrick cannot have another Avs situation.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 28 @ 2:36 PM ET
Lou and Patrick pretty much need each other. Lou cannot replace another coach, and Patrick cannot have another Avs situation.
- ses111

I hope it explodes and it turns into a giant sh!t storm because neither of these guys will be in place when this team is competitive again. May as well be entertained in the interim. 😆
batteryjackson
New York Islanders
Location: MEDICINE HAT MEDICINE PUSHERS, AB
Joined: 09.30.2014

Oct 28 @ 3:31 PM ET
I hope it explodes and it turns into a giant sh!t storm because neither of these guys will be in place when this team is competitive again. May as well be entertained in the interim. 😆
- Cptmjl


honestly my thoughts too but I'm still rooting for Roy
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Oct 28 @ 3:34 PM ET
Oh there’s definitely something going on. Roy’s comments are there for everyone to see. Pretty evident. Only question is what comes of it.
- Cptmjl

Possibly a cab ride
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 28 @ 4:59 PM ET
honestly my thoughts too but I'm still rooting for Roy
- batteryjackson

I like the guy but I don’t see him having a long shelf life but that’s not due to a fault of his own.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 28 @ 4:59 PM ET
Possibly a cab ride
- Ratsreign

Worked for you guys.
batteryjackson
New York Islanders
Location: MEDICINE HAT MEDICINE PUSHERS, AB
Joined: 09.30.2014

Oct 28 @ 5:05 PM ET
Possibly a cab ride
- Ratsreign


i still wonder who gallant pissed off and what he did to do it 😂🤣
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Oct 28 @ 6:19 PM ET
i still wonder who gallant pissed off and what he did to do it 😂🤣
- batteryjackson

Same situation, basically. They kicked Tallon upstairs after Isles beat them and reshaped Gallant’s team. He wasn’t down with it and it escalated early in season as a couple of guys he wanted up from AHL were shipped out, and others forced upon him.
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Oct 28 @ 6:20 PM ET
Worked for you guys.
- Cptmjl

Eventually. Was a big kick in the nuts at the time
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