she might not have been the greatest candidate, which definitely didn't help, but to say it had nothing to do with sex and skin color is putting your head in the sand.
- Pat1993

You're right, probably not nothing. But still, I think the overall majority didn't vote against her because of her skin color or sex.

she might not have been the greatest candidate, which definitely didn't help, but to say it had nothing to do with sex and skin color is putting your head in the sand.
- Pat1993

How come Obama was voted twice in then? And there is more than half of the population in the US who are women. If anything being a woman should be an advantage, but you have to give a reason for people to vote for you other than your gender and calling the other side bad names.

Oh boy..

You're right, probably not nothing. But still, I think the overall majority didn't vote against her because of her skin color or sex.
- BashCH

meh, I don't know about the exact numbers but let's just say nothing would surprise me. people are now overtly racist and sexist on the street and on social media now, no one seems to give a poop anymore.

How come Obama was voted twice in then? And there is more than half of the population in the US who are women. If anything being a woman should be an advantage, but you have to give a reason for people to vote for you other than your gender and calling the other side bad names.
- deadpoulet

If she was a slick talker like Obama, I think she'd be in right now. I can probably count on one hand the number of interviews/events she did without a teleprompter or reciting lines she learned by heart. It just felt fake, and I think people saw through that.

How come Obama was voted twice in then? And there is more than half of the population in the US who are women. If anything being a woman should be an advantage, but you have to give a reason for people to vote for you other than your gender and calling the other side bad names.
- deadpoulet

yeah I totally disagree on that, especially when it comes to 'Murica lol.

she might not have been the greatest candidate, which definitely didn't help, but to say it had nothing to do with sex and skin color is putting your head in the sand.
- Pat1993

They would have lost even worse with Biden by the way, why do you think they blackmailed him out of the nomination with threats of impeaching him?

After they bullied that poor senior out of his job they just nominated her without primaries.

She was an extremely unpopular VP in a unpopular administration et they just put her there to fail. That's why she lost.

How come Obama was voted twice in then? And there is more than half of the population in the US who are women. If anything being a woman should be an advantage, but you have to give a reason for people to vote for you other than your gender and calling the other side bad names.
- deadpoulet

Nazi

They would have lost even with worse with Biden by the way, why do you think they blackmailed him out of the nomination with threats of impeaching him?

After they bullied that poor senior out of his job they just nominated her without primaries.

She was an extremely unpopular VP in a unpopular administration et they just put her there to fail. That's why she lost.
- Fredo

so? that doesn't mean anything, Biden was old and senile lol.

so? that doesn't mean anything, Biden was old and senile lol.
- Pat1993

Still got 81M votes 4 years ago and he wasn't that less senile.

Still got 81M votes 4 years ago and he wasn't that less senile.
- BashCH

he was much worse coming in for his second mandate, it was glaringly obvious.

so? that doesn't mean anything, Biden was old and senile lol.
- Pat1993

The fact that she was a mixed black/indian women and she lost doesn't mean anything either.

She was just bad.

he was much worse coming in for his second mandate, it was glaringly obvious.
- Pat1993

Wonder what kind of drugs they gave him to hide that from (some) people for so long. You'd probably know since you're the expert on drugs here...

The fact that she was a mixed black/indian women and she lost doesn't mean anything either.

She was just bad.
- Fredo

I would've loved to see her on Rogan.

he was much worse coming in for his second mandate, it was glaringly obvious.
- Pat1993

Yeah and they lied constantly about it.

Harris said multiple times Joe was as sharp as ever in interviews. She could not separate herself from him.

They tried to brand her as the candidate for change while she's the number 2 in the country with the number 1 guy half-dead.

The fact that she was a mixed black/indian women and she lost doesn't mean anything either.

She was just bad.
- Fredo

yeah like I said, she definitely wasn't the greatest candidate ever to represent the democratic party, but sex and race were a factor for sure as well, let's not kid ourselves here.

I would've loved to see her on Rogan.
- BashCH

Joe Rogan

Are we gonna talk about this every day for 4 more years?

Cause if so, maybe we hasten the death of this website...

Are we gonna talk about this every day for 4 more years?

Cause if so, maybe we hasten the death of this website...
- Mashadar

I think I never wanted this site to crash and burn more than now to be honest lol

yeah like I said, she definitely wasn't the greatest candidate ever to represent the democratic party, but sex and race were a factor for sure as well, let's not kid ourselves here.
- Pat1993

I hope the democrats don't have that mindset for the next 4 years and do some real changes.

Joe Rogan

- Pat1993

You may not like him but he still has the most popular podcast on the planet...with more views than pretty much all traditional media platforms.

I hope the democrats don't have that mindset for the next 4 years and do some real changes.
- Fredo

even with how bad the dems handled things, I'm still baffled (although not surprised) by the result. it's insane to me. oh well.

You may not like him but he still has the most popular podcast on the planet...with more views than pretty much all traditional media platforms.
- BashCH

yup, too bad he isn't smarter to put all that popularity to good use.

even with how bad the dems handled things, I'm still baffled (although not surprised) by the result. it's insane to me. oh well.
- Pat1993

That's because you only consume media made by people who openly hate one side. Looking at both sides from time to time could probably help you better understand....anyways. You do you.

That's because you only consume media made by people who openly hate one side. Looking at both sides from time to time could probably help you better understand....anyways. You do you.
- BashCH

they elected a felon and a rapist.

you do you, buddy.