Compared to the other dreck they had at forward, he was comparatively good?
- LAHawk

Even in that light, I'm still trying to find any ounce of evidence that he's ever been good defensively. His numbers are brutal. I'm not trying to bag on him that much (he was a 4th rounder if memory serves). Just don't pretend he's more than he is. (basically Dominik Kahun with a little more longevity).

Kurashev is what he is at this point. I don't see him in the long term plans. He's not top 6 and is not a two way forward who can contribute in a meaning full way in the bottom 6.
- bhawks2241

Yea and if committing penalties because you aren't willing to move your feet is good defense then i guess it is.

I just don't see him in the long term plans at center.

But here we are KD brought in NHL talent and its shining the light on Kurashev and Reichel.

I just hope Hall keeps playing like he did vs the Ducks, maybe his hands just needed some time in actual game action.

Can't wait for Martinez to come back, Murphy really good 17 to 19 minutes but 25 minutes no Bueno i think he let a forward get by him on the inside twice in the 3rd period.

Another player I've been really impressed with is Kaiser he's not getting much pub but he's playing really well. Another great sign for this rebuild.

Another player I've been really impressed with is Kaiser he's not getting much pub but he's playing really well. Another great sign for this rebuild.
- BetweenTheDots

I really like what I’m seeing from
Allan as well, sure he’s still a little raw, but I can see the upside. I’d like to see him get closer to 16 minutes a night vs the 12-13 minutes he’s currently getting.

I really like what I’m seeing from
Allan as well, sure he’s still a little raw, but I can see the upside. I’d like to see him get closer to 16 minutes a night vs the 12-13 minutes he’s currently getting.
- Angotti

All the D-men are playing pretty well outside of Brodie. Jones is -2 (with the most minutes and points), Murphy is +4. Everyone else is in between. I like that they are pushing the plays to the outside a lot and trying to kill plays before or as they enter the zone. They just need the forwards to help/support a bit more, and score a few more goals.

I really like what I’m seeing from
Allan as well, sure he’s still a little raw, but I can see the upside. I’d like to see him get closer to 16 minutes a night vs the 12-13 minutes he’s currently getting.
- Angotti

Me to, and to think our 3 LD men are 23, 22, 21, i worry about Kaiser and Allan and hope it's not fools gold, but so far so good. Fingers crossed they play as consistent as they have the first 10 games of the season.

It's much more enjoyable to watch a Blackhawks game since we aren't playing in our own end all night.

I've been checking out nhledge and it verifies the eye test, Blackhawks at even strength the year before 38% in the offensive zone this year slightly over 40%. Less time in the dzone as well
- BetweenTheDots

I'm still reeling from those 50-8 shots Preds games.

Yea and if committing penalties because you aren't willing to move your feet is good defense then i guess it is.

I just don't see him in the long term plans at center.

But here we are KD brought in NHL talent and its shining the light on Kurashev and Reichel.

I just hope Hall keeps playing like he did vs the Ducks, maybe his hands just needed some time in actual game action.
- BetweenTheDots

Kurashev needs to make himself into Frolik if he's expecting a long NHL career.

Kurashev needs to make himself into Frolik if he's expecting a long NHL career.
- rpeters01

It'd be nice if he could find that inner dog that Hagel has.

Speaking of inner dog anyone see Allan in the Ducks game clear out the crease, yea he got 2 minutes but i can't tell you how enjoyable it was. It was like watching i think Matthews do the same thing to Suter after Suter did it to Marner.

Here's the link

https://x.com/MissinCurfe...WlaAvg1GsZuGSltGigZA&s=19

Me to, and to think our 3 LD men are 23, 22, 21, i worry about Kaiser and Allan and hope it's not fools gold, but so far so good. Fingers crossed they play as consistent as they have the first 10 games of the season.
- BetweenTheDots

We're rolling Vlasic, Kaiser and Allan all out there at the same time and staying competitive. That's much better than the Boqvist, Jokiharju and end of Keith days. I agree our weakness is getting the puck out of our zone where the Forwards can do something but these guys will continue to improve. I thought Rinzel looked like Drew Doughty the first time I saw him. It would be so huge if he were anything close. Then there's Lev and KK.

We're rolling Vlasic, Kaiser and Allan all out there at the same time and staying competitive. That's much better than the Boqvist, Jokiharju and end of Keith days. I agree our weakness is getting the puck out of our zone where the Forwards can do something but these guys will continue to improve. I thought Rinzel looked like Drew Doughty the first time I saw him. It would be so huge if he were anything close. Then there's Lev and KK.
- rpeters01

Hoping:
Vlasic, Arty, KK, Rinzel

Kaiser and Allen


Leaves DelMaestro to battle for third pair. A third pair with both dmen complimenting their mate, both have a strength
Which makes for a good pair. Allen will be tough and Kaiser can move the puck. DelMaestro is smart and tough but is actually well rounded dman whose mobility may actually not be a weakness/he is ok he can actually carry and move puck fine albeit a tad slow

Crevier may develop into a solid defensive guy who can provide a good shot and is actually well rounded - would help if he decides to check harder, check often and not merely stick check. With his reach he has potential to be solid defensively. I can imagine him playing as an injury replacement and both Crevier and Vlasic using reach and physicality against the attack.

For anyone who likes to check in on Hawks prospects this website is great. Updated daily.


https://www.eliteprospect...-blackhawks/in-the-system

Aidan Thompson on a tear at Denver right now. Anyone know much about him? Never really hear anything. 3rd rounder.

I really like what I’m seeing from
Allan as well, sure he’s still a little raw, but I can see the upside. I’d like to see him get closer to 16 minutes a night vs the 12-13 minutes he’s currently getting.
- Angotti

You might get your wish

Per Charlie Roumeliotis

#Blackhawks    lineup at practice:
Kurashev-Bedard-Donato
Hall-Foligno-Bertuzzi
Mikheyev-Richardinson-Teravainen
Maroon-Reichel-Smith

Allan-Jones
Vlasic-Murphy
Kaiser-Phillips

Mrazek
Soderblom

Extras: Anderson, Athanasiou, Brodie

You might get your wish

Per Charlie Roumeliotis

#Blackhawks    lineup at practice:
Kurashev-Bedard-Donato
Hall-Foligno-Bertuzzi
Mikheyev-Richardinson-Teravainen
Maroon-Reichel-Smith

Allan-Jones
Vlasic-Murphy
Kaiser-Phillips

Mrazek
Soderblom

Extras: Anderson, Athanasiou, Brodie
- BetweenTheDots

Bedard skating with a try hard 3rd liner and a guy that might be playing in Europe in 2-3 years. Yikes.

Me to, and to think our 3 LD men are 23, 22, 21, i worry about Kaiser and Allan and hope it's not fools gold, but so far so good. Fingers crossed they play as consistent as they have the first 10 games of the season.
- BetweenTheDots

Just my 2 cents but I'm hoping the young guys can round out their games more.

Vlasic is playing really well, much like his first half last year, he was pretty darn solid. Not flashy with offensive skill, but chipping in while playing tight defense.

Allan I think is playing very careful and maybe almost too timid. I think his focus is on positioning and it's not bad but I hope as he gains experience we start to see him step up the physical aspect of his game because things become second nature and he doesn't have to think about it.

Kaiser has been using his skating pretty well and he battles hard but probably for me he needs to work on his management of the puck under pressure a bit more. I think he likes to go a bit too much for the big pass and while it can be good when it works, sometimes the simple play is better.

Small sample size this season so far but Isaak Phillips to me still seems like an AHL quality D man. It just seems like he doesn't read the play well and opposite of Allan he goes out of his way too much to try to throw hits instead of focusing on the defending. I think he had to play a lot of on offside so far in the couple games he has been in, which isn't ideal, but I think we need better from him if he is going to be more than just the 7th man on D.

You might get your wish

Per Charlie Roumeliotis

#Blackhawks    lineup at practice:
Kurashev-Bedard-Donato
Hall-Foligno-Bertuzzi
Mikheyev-Richardinson-Teravainen
Maroon-Reichel-Smith

Allan-Jones
Vlasic-Murphy
Kaiser-Phillips

Mrazek
Soderblom

Extras: Anderson, Athanasiou, Brodie
- BetweenTheDots

Sucks for Anderson. Gets sick and can't get back in. There's too many 3rd/4th liners available.

Kurt Warner was talking about Caleb getting into bad habits of throwing only with his arm b/c he isn't comfortable in the pocket due to the amount of pressure he consistently sees.

I get he has talent around him but watch some of the breakdowns by really knowledgeable (and qualified) guys on youtube. WRs are not getting open.

Caleb has missed throws and the timing has been off. No doubt. That screen play you referenced Caleb actually made the right throw. The DB pushed the blocking WR up the field Caleb had to throw over the top of the DB. That play was read immediately and Caleb threw it away.

Caleb also several games around 70% completion tells me he can be an very accurate QB.
- bhawks2241

Just heard Williams now is 25th in QBR....... I think we agree on Williams for the most part that he showed elite traits, including innate abilities and accuracy, like a Marino, Elway, Manning did in college, Rodgers too.

For a whole host of reasons, some in his control and some not, he hasn't shown those traits, besides glimpses, so far in his 8 game NHL career.

And yes, I did hear Warner on WSCR (love that rewind feature on their app by the way). Yea, basically he says the ball gets to the receiver flat without touch. Agree., and Warner goes on to say why. Ok Williams, you know it only takes a quick shuffle to get your feet right enough to make big league throws.

Bedard skating with a try hard 3rd liner and a guy that might be playing in Europe in 2-3 years. Yikes.
- bhawks2241

The benefit to that is the second, third and forth lines have a bit more punch to them. If Bedard's line can hold their own, it means we have a bit more scoring going against the lower lines of the opposition. It's not like the coaches haven't tried loading up on Bedard's line and it's more important to have 4 lines that are playing decent.

Kurashev and Bedard have had good offensive reads with each other and Donato is playing with speed and chasing down pucks, which helps those two.

Foligno is doing a pretty good job as a Center when needed, Bertuzzi is being a pest around the net and making the occasional exceptional setup pass. Hall has been looking increasingly comfortable on the ice and adding some creativity to that group.

The third line is a fairly responsible, but hopefully can create a bit more chances, I would love to see Richardinson get a few more clean shots on net, he was shooting very well since he changed up his shot last season.

The fourth line just seems to do okay and then pounce on the odd opportunity to chip in.

I think things will stay in flux a bit in the lineup until they get things right, but this is probably the most balanced the 4 lines have been in a while. I'd rather they spread it out and don't live or die by whatever Bedard's line can generate. He will get plenty of extra opportunity to do more damage on the PP anyway.

For anyone who likes to check in on Hawks prospects this website is great. Updated daily.


https://www.eliteprospect...-blackhawks/in-the-system

Aidan Thompson on a tear at Denver right now. Anyone know much about him? Never really hear anything. 3rd rounder.
- bhawks2241

If memory serves, he was playing 2C last year during their run to the top. Kind of a do-it-all guy that chipped in points as well. As you said, he's on a tear now. Fun to see, but not sure how sustainable it is.

EDIT: Thanks for the link!

If memory serves, he was playing 2C last year during their run to the top. Kind of a do-it-all guy that chipped in points as well. As you said, he's on a tear now. Fun to see, but not sure how sustainable it is.

EDIT: Thanks for the link!
- Chunk

Watching the frozen 4 he was a pest all over the ice. I love these kinds of players.

Few kids in Rockford fit this mold as well.

Just my 2 cents but I'm hoping the young guys can round out their games more.

Vlasic is playing really well, much like his first half last year, he was pretty darn solid. Not flashy with offensive skill, but chipping in while playing tight defense.

Allan I think is playing very careful and maybe almost too timid. I think his focus is on positioning and it's not bad but I hope as he gains experience we start to see him step up the physical aspect of his game because things become second nature and he doesn't have to think about it.

Kaiser has been using his skating pretty well and he battles hard but probably for me he needs to work on his management of the puck under pressure a bit more. I think he likes to go a bit too much for the big pass and while it can be good when it works, sometimes the simple play is better.

Small sample size this season so far but Isaak Phillips to me still seems like an AHL quality D man. It just seems like he doesn't read the play well and opposite of Allan he goes out of his way too much to try to throw hits instead of focusing on the defending. I think he had to play a lot of on offside so far in the couple games he has been in, which isn't ideal, but I think we need better from him if he is going to be more than just the 7th man on D.
- breadbag

In my opinion Isaak Phillips is up with the big club as the 7th defenseman because he’s not in their long term plans. If he was part of the plan he would be playing in Rockford, or getting more games with the Hawks, not sitting up in the press box as he does most nights. There’s a reason why he cleared waivers.

How is Kane playing. Is he still consistently dangerous, or mostly "old" Kane with still the flash of great hands now and then? He was never a speedster, I am sure he has slowed down after the hip procedure.
- LAHawk

Got a nice 2 period look at Kane a couple weeks ago. He looked healthy and really really dangerous. Maybe more so than ever even. His is so silky and so poised, the game is so slow for him. ....

In fact, for the first time since he left I thought Kaner would fit like a glove on this Hawk's roster.

In my opinion Isaak Phillips is up with the big club as the 7th defenseman because he’s not in their long term plans. If he was part of the plan he would be playing in Rockford, or getting more games with the Hawks, not sitting up in the press box as he does most nights. There’s a reason why he cleared waivers.
- Angotti

Right on, Lou. Indeed, Phillips did clear waivers and as you say, there is a reason for that........ I'm a Phillips guy and for me he's a really nice asset for the club who can reasonably take NHL games for whatever reason and not hurt you. A 23 yr old 5th rd swing who's now going into his 5th pro yr that can take NHL games and be a good AHLer is a good piece for any organIzation.

Right on, Lou. Indeed, Phillips did clear waivers and as you say, there is a reason for that........ I'm a Phillips guy and for me he's a really nice asset for the club who can reasonably take NHL games for whatever reason and not hurt you. A 23 yr old 5th rd swing who's now going into his 5th pro yr that can take NHL games and be a good AHLer is a good piece for any organIzation.
- Mr Ricochet

I think the Hawks have until Nov.8 (30 days) to send Phillips down before having to put him through waivers again, My guess is Martinez will be activated in a day or 2 and Phillips will end up back in Rockford.