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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jul 16 @ 9:14 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Hathaway, Prospect Directory, TIFH, and More
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 16 @ 9:17 AM ET
Gotta love a rebuilding team that thinks Hathaway, Seeler and Poehling are core pieces that need to be extended and that Scott Laughton is too valuable to trade.

A once great franchise is now one of the laughingstocks of the NHL.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 16 @ 9:29 AM ET
Gotta love a rebuilding team that thinks Hathaway, Seeler and Poehling are core pieces that need to be extended and that Scott Laughton is too valuable to trade.

A once great franchise is now one of the laughingstocks of the NHL.

- BiggE



Wheelers summer 2024 top 100 prospect list.

2. Michkov
50. Bonk


Oh, and at #5, Zeev Buium.

Luchanko not in the top 100.


https://www.nytimes.com/a...anking-celebrini-michkov/
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jul 16 @ 9:29 AM ET
Gotta love a rebuilding team that thinks Hathaway, Seeler and Poehling are core pieces that need to be extended and that Scott Laughton is too valuable to trade.

A once great franchise is now one of the laughingstocks of the NHL.

- BiggE


The Gold Standard of the NHL for sure!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 16 @ 9:29 AM ET
Gotta love a rebuilding team that thinks Hathaway, Seeler and Poehling are core pieces that need to be extended and that Scott Laughton is too valuable to trade.

A once great franchise is now one of the laughingstocks of the NHL.

- BiggE


You don't think that is a foundation for a cup contending team? Interesting. Even with all the culture and standard they bring to the table?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 16 @ 9:35 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Hathaway, Prospect Directory, TIFH, and More
- bmeltzer

If Bonk has a real good camp do you see him getting a 10 game look?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 16 @ 9:36 AM ET
Gotta love a rebuilding team that thinks Hathaway, Seeler and Poehling are core pieces that need to be extended and that Scott Laughton is too valuable to trade.

A once great franchise is now one of the laughingstocks of the NHL.

- BiggE

laughton and RP will get extended next summer......
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Jul 16 @ 9:41 AM ET
Wheelers summer 2024 top 100 prospect list.

2. Michkov
50. Bonk


Oh, and at #5, Zeev Buium.

Luchanko not in the top 100.


https://www.nytimes.com/a...anking-celebrini-michkov/

- MBFlyerfan


Well, they were smart enough to pass on Makar and Hieskenen.... so, there's that...
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 16 @ 9:46 AM ET
Wheelers summer 2024 top 100 prospect list.

2. Michkov
50. Bonk


Oh, and at #5, Zeev Buium.

Luchanko not in the top 100.


https://www.nytimes.com/a...anking-celebrini-michkov/

- MBFlyerfan


Only two players for a team that has been as bad as they've been over the past decade? That's concerning.

To put that number in perspective:

Sharks 6
Jackets 6
Wings 5
Hawks 5
Ducks 5
Kraken 5
Jets 5
Utah 5
Blues 5
Caps 5
Habs 5
Sabres 4
Canes 4
Wild 4


Yes there are actual contenders that have somehow been able to draft twice as many high end prospects in the past 5-years than the Flyers, lol.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jul 16 @ 9:47 AM ET

You don't think that is a foundation for a cup contending team? Interesting. Even with all the culture and standard they bring to the table?
MJL


The flyers are a lock to win this seasons culture cup.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 16 @ 9:51 AM ET



The flyers are a lock to win this seasons culture cup.

- bird_dog_pa


Hands down winners perhaps
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Jul 16 @ 9:53 AM ET
Are you certain of this? I didn't read this anywhere. If you are right, then yes I would be completely against any player that thinks they do not have earn a spot on the NHL roster. I'm just not sure that is the case here. I think with these college players, they use care more abut using their leverage to burn a year off their ELC. I can't imagine a hockey player at this level that doesn't work very hard and wants to earn their spot. Its in their DNA after all, or at least it should be.
- jd250



https://thehockeynews.com...rs-trade-rutger-mcgroarty

Per the Winnipeg News' Mike McIntyre, McGroarty is looking for assurances and guarantees that he'll be in the NHL and get his share of ice time. As a result, it's been difficult for teams to trade for him, as there's a "sense of entitlement."

"There are other teams that might be interested in Rutger McGroarty that are hearing a lot of the same things from the McGroarty camp that the Jets have heard in terms of playing time and assurances," McIntyre said on Winnipeg Sports Talk, adding, "There may have been one particular deal that was close to happening that essentially fell apart because the other team didn't like what they were hearing either from the McGroarty camp. That may be complicating this for the Jets."
hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Jul 16 @ 9:55 AM ET
Wheelers summer 2024 top 100 prospect list.

2. Michkov
50. Bonk


Oh, and at #5, Zeev Buium.

Luchanko not in the top 100.


https://www.nytimes.com/a...anking-celebrini-michkov/

- MBFlyerfan

Gabe Perrault 13...Gauthier 19...with Buium 5 and MM 2 the Flyers should have 4 of the top 19 on their roster...instead have 1 inside top 50
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 16 @ 9:56 AM ET
Would be nice if some attention was paid to the men aside from Briere, and Jones in the front office, and scouting departments.

Accountability isn’t a thing on the various Flyers Pravda news outlets.

I do hold solace in the fact that we are able to keep all the scumbag senior advisors on board, guess Snider’s grave hasn’t been fully milked yet.

Not sure why anyone would be surprised considering what company owns the team at this point.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 16 @ 9:58 AM ET
Wheelers summer 2024 top 100 prospect list.

2. Michkov
50. Bonk


Oh, and at #5, Zeev Buium.

Luchanko not in the top 100.


https://www.nytimes.com/a...anking-celebrini-michkov/

- MBFlyerfan

It’s just sad.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 16 @ 10:01 AM ET
Would be nice if some attention was paid to the men aside from Briere, and Jones in the front office, and scouting departments.

Accountability isn’t a thing on the various Flyers Pravda news outlets.

I do hold solace in the fact that we are able to keep all the scumbag senior advisors on board, guess Snider’s grave hasn’t been fully milked yet.

Not sure why anyone would be surprised considering what company owns the team at this point.

- flyer_nutter

If the Flyers brain trust was running Ford Motors, they’d still be rolling out the Edsel every year.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 16 @ 10:05 AM ET
Wheelers summer 2024 top 100 prospect list.

2. Michkov
50. Bonk


Oh, and at #5, Zeev Buium.

Luchanko not in the top 100.


https://www.nytimes.com/a...anking-celebrini-michkov/
- MBFlyerfan

I bet last year Bonk was not in his top 100 either. Let's give it a year and see how this changes. Right not this is soley based on hype, not results. I am sure Buium will be a good player, but I think Luchenko is poised to have a monster +1 season.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 16 @ 10:05 AM ET
Gabe Perrault 13...Gauthier 19...with Buium 5 and MM 2 the Flyers should have 4 of the top 19 on their roster...instead have 1 inside top 50
- hfc355

all one can do is laugh really. yet peeps will still defend the orgineyezation.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 16 @ 10:05 AM ET
I bet last year Bonk was not in his top 100 either. Let's give it a year and see how this changes. Right not this is soley based on hype, not results. I am sure Buium will be a good player, but I think Luchenko is poised to have a monster +1 season.
- jd250

defend until the end
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 16 @ 10:07 AM ET

https://thehockeynews.com...rs-trade-rutger-mcgroarty

Per the Winnipeg News' Mike McIntyre, McGroarty is looking for assurances and guarantees that he'll be in the NHL and get his share of ice time. As a result, it's been difficult for teams to trade for him, as there's a "sense of entitlement."

"There are other teams that might be interested in Rutger McGroarty that are hearing a lot of the same things from the McGroarty camp that the Jets have heard in terms of playing time and assurances," McIntyre said on Winnipeg Sports Talk, adding, "There may have been one particular deal that was close to happening that essentially fell apart because the other team didn't like what they were hearing either from the McGroarty camp. That may be complicating this for the Jets."
- The Freak

Yes, I read more about this situation this morning, you're right, I'll shut up now. Read this great comment from someone this morning that pretty much sums up the situation:

That kid’s family is going to completely tank his career because they’re telling him he’s a superstar.

Even Bedard was telling reporters after the draft that his first goal was to try and make the Hawks lineup ffs
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 16 @ 10:10 AM ET
defend until the end
- hello it's me 2050

Honestly, what are you basing your hopelessness on, some guy's BS prospect ranking? Luchenko is only 17 years old, give the kid a chance, and have some faith that Flahr and his scouting staff know what they are doing.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jul 16 @ 10:17 AM ET
Honestly, what are you basing your hopelessness on, some guy's BS prospect ranking? Luchenko is only 17 years old, give the kid a chance, and have some faith that Flahr and his scouting staff know what they are doing.
- jd250


Flahr and his scouting staff have produced squat so far in their tenure - a 3/4 Dman in york - that is it
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 16 @ 10:25 AM ET
If the Flyers brain trust was running Ford Motors, they’d still be rolling out the Edsel every year.
- BiggE


With bright shiny orange paint. It's a new era of orange!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 16 @ 10:30 AM ET
Honestly, what are you basing your hopelessness on, some guy's BS prospect ranking? Luchenko is only 17 years old, give the kid a chance, and have some faith that Flahr and his scouting staff know what they are doing.
- jd250


It's not about giving the kid a chance. It's about they passed up a chance to get a player rated in the top 5 for a lower rated prospect and the flawed reasoning behind the decision
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 16 @ 10:33 AM ET
Honestly, what are you basing your hopelessness on, some guy's BS prospect ranking? Luchenko is only 17 years old, give the kid a chance, and have some faith that Flahr and his scouting staff know what they are doing.
- jd250

does this really need to be answered. What's funny is if that guy had several flyers ranked high you would be slobbering over his knob.

why does or should flahr get the benefit of the doubt? how many drafts has he been involved in during his time with the flyers? you happy with those results in terms those players graduating to the nhl?
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