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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 27 @ 9:36 AM ET
Are you EVER happy about anything? They sent the kid down! That's what you wanted. Oh, stop the presses, he missed out on a couple of OHL games. Let's make a federal case out of it! WTF!
- Phillywhiteout


You continue to reply with unintelligent hyperbole. Are you capable of anything else?
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 27 @ 9:37 AM ET
Hearing the Flyers will start Kolosov tonight, and also recall Andrae. This would be a good game to get Andrae in, since Montreal is a fast but small team.
- jd250
Kind of a no brainer. I'm not even sure if Fedotov is an AHL goalie at this point. He may be more ECHL material. Now that is a bad look for the Flyguys...3.2 mil a year for that train wreck? At least it's only a 2 year contract.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 27 @ 9:39 AM ET
Oh stop already. It was great for the kid to get a taste of the NHL, he earned it with a strong camp. You are just looking for things to complain about! I applaud the Flyers for picking him over Buium and for getting him into a few games, but in the end doing the right thing and sending him back to junior a consistent player.
- jd250


No, he didn't earn it. He clearly showed that he was not ready to play in the NHL at this point of his development. Because the Flyers used bad judgement and kept him on the team, doesn't mean he earned anything. Of course you would applaud the Flyers for making bad choices. You rubber stamp pretty much everything the Flyers do. Keeping him on the team was bad for his development
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 27 @ 9:41 AM ET
No, he didn't earn it. He clearly showed that he was not ready to play in the NHL at this point of his development. Because the Flyers used bad judgement and kept him on the team, doesn't mean he earned anything. Of course you would applaud the Flyers for making bad choices. You rubber stamp pretty much everything the Flyers do. Keeping him on the team was bad for his development
- MJL
Yeah, his development is gonna be set back for years due to missing 5 OHL games. Oh, the humanity!!
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Oct 27 @ 9:41 AM ET
Kind of a no brainer. I'm not even sure if Fedotov is an AHL goalie at this point. He may be more ECHL material. Now that is a bad look for the Flyguys...3.2 mil a year for that train wreck? At least it's only a 2 year contract.
- Phillywhiteout


The question is what do you do with your 3 goalies if Kolosov plays well today? Carry 3 goalies? What if he doesn't? They can't play Ersson in every game.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 27 @ 9:46 AM ET
Yeah, his development is gonna be set back for years due to missing 5 OHL games. Oh, the humanity!!

- Phillywhiteout


You don't seem to have the intelligence to realize that just because the degree of how much his development has been hurt is not perceived to be major, it can still be detrimental to the players development. Briere himself said yesterday that its going to take Luchanko a week or two to reacclimate to his junior team and teammates. If he was sent down when he should've been sent down, that would not be the case and he would've already had far more ice time and opportunity to develop the areas of his game that he needs to work on that he couldn't while remaining with Flyers.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 27 @ 9:46 AM ET
Hearing the Flyers will start Kolosov tonight, and also recall Andrae. This would be a good game to get Andrae in, since Montreal is a fast but small team.
- jd250

lol at the rink again?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 27 @ 9:48 AM ET
Oh stop already. It was great for the kid to get a taste of the NHL, he earned it with a strong camp. You are just looking for things to complain about! I applaud the Flyers for picking him over Buium and for getting him into a few games, but in the end doing the right thing and sending him back to junior a consistent player.
- jd250

he earned it. is that a reflection of how bad the flyers are and the talent they lack?

the jett didn't do much at all in those preseason games. didn't stand out.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
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Oct 27 @ 9:48 AM ET
You continue to reply with unintelligent hyperbole. Are you capable of anything else?
- MJL

trolling cliff
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Oct 27 @ 9:49 AM ET
The question is what do you do with your 3 goalies if Kolosov plays well today? Carry 3 goalies? What if he doesn't? They can't play Ersson in every game.
- Flyers_01

carrying 3 will create more unneeded issues imo.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
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Oct 27 @ 9:50 AM ET
You don't seem to have the intelligence to realize that just because the degree of how much his development has been hurt is not perceived to be major, it can still be detrimental to the players development. Briere himself said yesterday that its going to take Luchanko a week or two to reacclimate to his junior team and teammates. If he was sent down when he should've been sent down, that would not be the case and he would've already had far more ice time and opportunity to develop the areas of his game that he needs to work on that he couldn't while remaining with Flyers.
- MJL

his development was not hurt in any way shape or form. so stfu cliff. go take mommy to breakfast. make sure she wears a bib.

you talk about jd parroting the flyers. well your doing the same.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 27 @ 10:04 AM ET
The question is what do you do with your 3 goalies if Kolosov plays well today? Carry 3 goalies? What if he doesn't? They can't play Ersson in every game.
- Flyers_01
Ideally Kolosov plays well and then they would send Fedotov down to the Phantoms. If kolosov doesn't play well I have no idea what they would do. I think Fedotov needs time in the AHL regardless. Perhaps he can find his game and some confidence down there.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Oct 27 @ 10:08 AM ET
Ideally Kolosov plays well and then they would send Fedotov down to the Phantoms. If kolosov doesn't play well I have no idea what they would do. I think Fedotov needs time in the AHL regardless. Perhaps he can find his game and some confidence down there.
- Phillywhiteout


This is the last back to back for awhile and Kolosov is the only waiver exempt goalie. I feel this is a one off to take the spotlight off of Feds. They can play Ersson the next few games and pick their spot to play Feds again.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Oct 27 @ 10:09 AM ET
he earned it. is that a reflection of how bad the flyers are and the talent they lack?

the jett didn't do much at all in those preseason games. didn't stand out.

- hello it's me 2050


Both in my eyes. I thought he played pretty good early on and honestly we do not see this kid every day in practices and such. But in my mind the rubber hit the road when it was apparent that offensively he needs more time to develop. The place to do that is not under Torts…but in the OHL where he’ll be “the guy” a player in all situations…I still think the sky’s the limit for this kid. Big year for him.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 27 @ 10:12 AM ET
he earned it. is that a reflection of how bad the flyers are and the talent they lack?

the jett didn't do much at all in those preseason games. didn't stand out.

- hello it's me 2050

lol he didn’t earn anything. He was pedestrian at best in all his showings. And this myth of getting a taste of the NHl helping him is beyond stupid.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 27 @ 10:13 AM ET
Both in my eyes. I thought he played pretty good early on and honestly we do not see this kid every day in practices and such. But in my mind the rubber hit the road when it was apparent that offensively he needs more time to develop. The place to do that is not under Torts…but in the OHL where he’ll be “the guy” a player in all situations…I still think the sky’s the limit for this kid. Big year for him.
- landros 2

This wasn’t some come to Jesus moment, it was known the entire time.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
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Oct 27 @ 10:13 AM ET
Ideally Kolosov plays well and then they would send Fedotov down to the Phantoms. If kolosov doesn't play well I have no idea what they would do. I think Fedotov needs time in the AHL regardless. Perhaps he can find his game and some confidence down there.
- Phillywhiteout


I think the Flyers are like WTF….we need a save. It doesn’t matter from who. Regardless of waivers…both guys here have not played ANYWHERE good enough to not give Kolosov a look.
Why not?
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Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 27 @ 10:13 AM ET
Both in my eyes. I thought he played pretty good early on and honestly we do not see this kid every day in practices and such. But in my mind the rubber hit the road when it was apparent that offensively he needs more time to develop. The place to do that is not under Torts…but in the OHL where he’ll be “the guy” a player in all situations…I still think the sky’s the limit for this kid. Big year for him.
- landros 2

I am basing my opinion on the games only. he didn't do much at all to me. That isn't a knock-on him mind you.
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Oct 27 @ 10:13 AM ET
This wasn’t some come to Jesus moment, it was known the entire time.
- ClaudeFather


I don’t disagree.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 27 @ 10:15 AM ET
I don’t disagree.
- landros 2

It all boiled down to Torts falling in love with him because he was in great physical condition, another embarrassing mark for the Flyers and their stupidity
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
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Oct 27 @ 10:15 AM ET
I am basing my opinion on the games only. he didn't do much at all to me. That isn't a knock-on him mind you.
- hello it's me 2050


I saw a kid that defensively that could hold his own and was smart….but we didn’t draft him to be the next Scott Laughton. Nobody should knock this kid…he’s way ahead of anything I thought they drafted.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 27 @ 11:00 AM ET
This is the last back to back for awhile and Kolosov is the only waiver exempt goalie. I feel this is a one off to take the spotlight off of Feds. They can play Ersson the next few games and pick their spot to play Feds again.
- Flyers_01
That makes sense, although no one is taking Fedotov at 3.2 mil a year anyway.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Oct 27 @ 2:30 PM ET
I hope Zamula is the one who sits.
- roenick97

Its got to be Johnson that sits I would think
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Oct 27 @ 2:32 PM ET
Both in my eyes. I thought he played pretty good early on and honestly we do not see this kid every day in practices and such. But in my mind the rubber hit the road when it was apparent that offensively he needs more time to develop. The place to do that is not under Torts…but in the OHL where he’ll be “the guy” a player in all situations…I still think the sky’s the limit for this kid. Big year for him.
- landros 2

I'm tired of the shots against Torts so I will rephrase and say, its better Luchanko develop his offense in the OHL, not the NHL. Torts and his staff have done a fine job developing players IMO.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 27 @ 3:09 PM ET
I'm tired of the shots against Torts so I will rephrase and say, its better Luchanko develop his offense in the OHL, not the NHL. Torts and his staff have done a fine job developing players IMO.
- jd250


You can be tired all you want. Tortorella is horrendous at developing young players. His handling of Luchanko is an example.
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