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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 26 @ 12:14 PM ET
Wasn’t Andrea already sent back?
- furio16



Yes, but they can actually call him back up. Its amazing I know.
SlNlSTER
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2023

Oct 26 @ 12:14 PM ET
The comment that Bill Meltzer made did not even say that the league was trending towards 30 year old coaches. Now back to the status quo.
- MJL

So bill didn’t say teams are treading towards coachs 30 years younger then trots

So that's saying coaches in their 30s or early 40s

But im saying just because a trend is happening doesn't mean it's the right 1, considering last 5 coaches who won cups were in min to late 50s

Dave21Brown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 12.09.2018

Oct 26 @ 12:22 PM ET
Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli 46m

#Flyers have sent 18-year-old Jett Luchanko back to OHL Guelph for the season after a four-game introduction to #NHL.

PHI is thrilled with their pick, he certainly exceeded expectations heading into camp, and they want him to play as many minutes in as many situations possible.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Oct 26 @ 12:23 PM ET

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Injury update: Defenseman Cam York (upper-body injury) is expected to miss a minimum of two weeks.

Erik Johnson will draw back into the lineup today.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 26 @ 12:26 PM ET
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Injury update: Defenseman Cam York (upper-body injury) is expected to miss a minimum of two weeks.

Erik Johnson will draw back into the lineup today.

- StepfordSam


Perfect opportunity to get Andrae some playing time in the NHL.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 26 @ 12:27 PM ET
The trek to a top 5 pick carries on. Can’t wait to see the new top pair of Sanheim/Risto.

Sanheim’s back is already dreading having to carry the Finnish anchor
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Oct 26 @ 12:31 PM ET
What Paul Maurice 57 year of age and won, that's a far cry from 30
- SlNlSTER


The difference is Maurice was able to change, adapt and grow. Boudreau and Torts can’t or won’t. Maurice has adapted to new players and systems. He develops close relationships with players by offering praise and encouragement and being less critical. Maurice is measured where Torts is fiery and Maurice is more collaborative with his assistants. The age factor is mitigated when you can adapt to the game as it is today. I think Bill’s comment speaks more to the fact that most older coaches can’t pull it off.



corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Oct 26 @ 12:32 PM ET
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Injury update: Defenseman Cam York (upper-body injury) is expected to miss a minimum of two weeks.

Erik Johnson will draw back into the lineup today.

- StepfordSam


Next week he will be ellis’d
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Oct 26 @ 12:33 PM ET
According to ASF, York is expected to be out longer then two weeks, probably heading to IR- whew
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 26 @ 12:34 PM ET
The difference is Maurice was able to change, adapt and grow. Boudreau and Torts can’t or won’t. Maurice has adapted to new players and systems. He develops close relationships with players by offering praise and encouragement and being less critical. Maurice is measured where Torts is fiery and Maurice is more collaborative with his assistants. The age factor is mitigated when you can adapt to the game as it is today. I think Bill’s comment speaks more to the fact that most older coaches can’t pull it off.
- Minnyhock


I don't care how old the coach is as long as he plays a modern style and system of play. As long as he uses all of the tools and assets available to a coach in the modern day NHL. As long as he is cognizant of how to handle the modern day player. As long as he is capable of adjusting strategy and tactics in game to fit the moment. None of which Tortorella does.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 26 @ 12:36 PM ET
I don't care how old the coach is as long as he plays a modern style and system of play. As long as he uses all of the tools and assets available to a coach in the modern day NHL. As long as he is cognizant of how to handle the modern day player. As long as he is capable of adjusting strategy and tactics in game to fit the moment. None of which Tortorella does.
- MJL

Dust off your resume Cliff
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Oct 26 @ 12:41 PM ET
Good. They finally made a rational decision. Now lets see if they put Andrae in the lineup for York, or if the play Johnson, who isn't blocking any of the kids.
- MBFlyerfan


Jett hasn't played in a week, so what's changed? Glad he was sent back though.

Agreed on Andrae. If he was good enough to call up for the road trip, put him him in and see what you have. He's not 18 and you can't tell me the current defense has played so well that someone can't sit.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Oct 26 @ 12:45 PM ET
You care to tell us more about the plan with Luchanko?
- ClaudeFather


I answered that last blog, You want to try and not be a Richard for a day? I know its hard to believe but I am not always right, no one is.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Oct 26 @ 12:46 PM ET
Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli 46m

#Flyers have sent 18-year-old Jett Luchanko back to OHL Guelph for the season after a four-game introduction to #NHL.

PHI is thrilled with their pick, he certainly exceeded expectations heading into camp, and they want him to play as many minutes in as many situations possible.

- Dave21Brown


Pretty close to my prediction earlier. Team playing game 9 with Jett playing only 4 games and sending him back with no admission of it being a mistake.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Oct 26 @ 12:47 PM ET
Rumor is, Jones and Briere had enough and double teamed Torts. Torts was screaming “not the face” the entire time.
- roenick97


But Torts always gets his way, he really runs the team Im told
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Oct 26 @ 12:50 PM ET
Next week he will be ellis’d
- corduroy


It's both funny and sad that that is where our minds go because of this franchise's history.

There's no reason to trot out 36 year old EJ when there's other options in the AHL who would benefit from the playing time. They are rebuilding are they not?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 26 @ 12:52 PM ET
Pretty close to my prediction earlier. Team playing game 9 with Jett playing only 4 games and sending him back with no admission of it being a mistake.
- Flyers_01


Every time I listen to a press conference by this team, whether it's Tortorella, Briere, Jones or Hilferty. They make me laugh. Briere is saying sending Luchanko down is best for his development. He gets to be the guy and play big minutes in all situations. That wasn't the case before the season started but it is now?
SlNlSTER
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2023

Oct 26 @ 12:52 PM ET
I don't care how old the coach is as long as he plays a modern style and system of play. As long as he uses all of the tools and assets available to a coach in the modern day NHL. As long as he is cognizant of how to handle the modern day player. As long as he is capable of adjusting strategy and tactics in game to fit the moment. None of which Tortorella does.
- MJL



Well said fair enough 👏

But i was talking about bringing in coach Q

Let's face it he help get the panthers into contenders before being told to resign
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Oct 26 @ 12:54 PM ET
Pretty close to my prediction earlier. Team playing game 9 with Jett playing only 4 games and sending him back with no admission of it being a mistake.
- Flyers_01


Why would they say it was a mistake. I think it can be beneficial. He has NHL games under his belt, he know knows what its going to take to play in NHL. Some people understand better by experience than being told they arent ready. I Def believe they should have sent him down earlier though. I dont see the point of sitting him for two games then doing this on the 3rd game unless Briere and Jones made the decision based on Torts not using him

I could see Torts coming around and saying he isnt ready but that doesnt account for not sending him down Tues\Wed
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 26 @ 12:55 PM ET
Why would they say it was a mistake. I think it can be beneficial. He has NHL games under his belt, he know knows what its going to take to play in NHL. Some people understand better by experience than being told they arent ready. I Def believe they should have sent him down earlier though. I dont see the point of sitting him for two games then doing this on the 3rd game unless Briere and Jones made the decision based on Torts not using him

I could see Torts coming around and saying he isnt ready but that doesnt account for not sending him down Tues\Wed

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


It was a clear cut mistake. He played in the pre season and got a taste of the NHL.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Oct 26 @ 12:57 PM ET
Why would they say it was a mistake. I think it can be beneficial. He has NHL games under his belt, he know knows what its going to take to play in NHL. Some people understand better by experience than being told they arent ready. I Def believe they should have sent him down earlier though. I dont see the point of sitting him for two games then doing this on the 3rd game unless Briere and Jones made the decision based on Torts not using him

I could see Torts coming around and saying he isnt ready but that doesnt account for not sending him down Tues\Wed

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

They kept him for a few extra checks so he has some spending money for the season.
Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Oct 26 @ 12:58 PM ET
According to ASF, York is expected to be out longer then two weeks, probably heading to IR- whew
- Trox88


Not automatically mutually exclusive. Can back date IR and it only has to be one week. BUT injury report says minimum of two weeks so that's a best-case scenario.
SlNlSTER
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2023

Oct 26 @ 12:58 PM ET
It was a clear cut mistake. He played in the pre season and got a taste of the NHL.
- MJL

I don't honestly see how having 4 games in the nhl for experience is a bad thing.

But i am happy because now I can watch Jett develop by catching a few games
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 26 @ 1:02 PM ET
I don't honestly see how having 4 games in the nhl for experience is a bad thing.

But i am happy because now I can watch Jett develop by catching a few games

- SlNlSTER


This of course means you have volunteered to keep us updated on his game to game progress.

Please and Thank you.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 26 @ 1:03 PM ET
I don't honestly see how having 4 games in the nhl for experience is a bad thing.

But i am happy because now I can watch Jett develop by catching a few games

- SlNlSTER


Glad Jett has been sent back. He’ll now get all the ice time he needs and can play the wjc as well. The correct call.
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